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Re: Ramadan In The 21st Century

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Redcard wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 10:50 pm Since when has capitalism been a religion,
I don’t know the exact date but believe it’s since some point in 1983.
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CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:26 am
Redcard wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 10:50 pm Since when has capitalism been a religion,
I don’t know the exact date but believe it’s since some point in 1983.
Middle ages to be precise .

https://acton.org/pub/religion-liberty/ ... capitalism
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:54 am
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:26 am
Redcard wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 10:50 pm Since when has capitalism been a religion,
I don’t know the exact date but believe it’s since some point in 1983.
Middle ages to be precise .

https://acton.org/pub/religion-liberty/ ... capitalism
Does religion being the architects of capitalism make capitalism a religion. ?
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dOh Nut wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:45 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:54 am
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:26 am

I don’t know the exact date but believe it’s since some point in 1983.
Middle ages to be precise .

https://acton.org/pub/religion-liberty/ ... capitalism
Does religion being the architects of capitalism make capitalism a religion. ?
I doubt it doh but Capitalism could not have existed without the Catholic church specifically.

Im sure we could say its been around in other smaller forms but ancient greece was run as Socialism

A Khibbutz is a socialist life

It is forbidden in the qu'ran to make profit from loans .
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:05 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:45 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:54 am

Middle ages to be precise .

https://acton.org/pub/religion-liberty/ ... capitalism
Does religion being the architects of capitalism make capitalism a religion. ?
I doubt it doh but Capitalism could not have existed without the Catholic church specifically.

Im sure we could say its been around in other smaller forms but ancient greece was run as Socialism

A Khibbutz is a socialist life

It is forbidden in the qu'ran to make profit from loans .
It also forbids riding the red river home too.
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Disgusting !!
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Yes.
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:05 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:45 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:54 am

Middle ages to be precise .

https://acton.org/pub/religion-liberty/ ... capitalism
Does religion being the architects of capitalism make capitalism a religion. ?
I doubt it doh but Capitalism could not have existed without the Catholic church specifically.

Im sure we could say its been around in other smaller forms but ancient greece was run as Socialism

A Khibbutz is a socialist life

It is forbidden in the qu'ran to make profit from loans .
Think the term your looking for is Riba

While Muslims agree that riba is prohibited, not all agree on what precisely it is,or whether its use should be punished by humans rather than Allah.

Thanks for asking
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Capitalism was about in the times when Jesus cast out the money lenders in the Temple. I doubt Religion was the cause of capitalism but it sure helped it along the way.

Can’t see Capitalism being a religion.
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Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:21 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:05 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:45 pm

Does religion being the architects of capitalism make capitalism a religion. ?
I doubt it doh but Capitalism could not have existed without the Catholic church specifically.

Im sure we could say its been around in other smaller forms but ancient greece was run as Socialism

A Khibbutz is a socialist life

It is forbidden in the qu'ran to make profit from loans .
Think the term your looking for is Riba

While Muslims agree that riba is prohibited, not all agree on what precisely it is,or whether its use should be punished by humans rather than Allah.

Thanks for asking
Are you suggesting such rules only apply when convenient
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Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:21 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:05 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:45 pm

Does religion being the architects of capitalism make capitalism a religion. ?
I doubt it doh but Capitalism could not have existed without the Catholic church specifically.

Im sure we could say its been around in other smaller forms but ancient greece was run as Socialism

A Khibbutz is a socialist life

It is forbidden in the qu'ran to make profit from loans .
Think the term your looking for is Riba

While Muslims agree that riba is prohibited, not all agree on what precisely it is,or whether its use should be punished by humans rather than Allah.

Thanks for asking
I know the term , just wanted to put it in its simplest form


If you look at that single fact & that there are between 1.6 million to 2 billion muslims on the planet , you can see why western banking, could be very nervous of Islam & then in essence why Capitalism would try to add even more reason to the spread of islamaphobia on such a wide scale in the press.

This is a great video on Riba , but it can also expose the capitalist west's fear, while also adding fuel to already lit hate of Islam .

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Contemporary philosopher John Gray raises a strong argument that all forms of political and economic ideology are a form of religion. They have rules, mantras and moral belief systems, much like religion. In some cases they even have messiah figures (e.g. Mao, Stalin, Il- Sung).

The bloke who wrote “Saipans” and “Homo Dues” has a pretty similar argument too.

A religion doesn’t necessarily have to have a deity (e.g. Buddhism), so it’s not entirely ridiculous to claim that things like capitalism are a type of religion.
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:55 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:21 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:05 pm

I doubt it doh but Capitalism could not have existed without the Catholic church specifically.

Im sure we could say its been around in other smaller forms but ancient greece was run as Socialism

A Khibbutz is a socialist life

It is forbidden in the qu'ran to make profit from loans .
Think the term your looking for is Riba

While Muslims agree that riba is prohibited, not all agree on what precisely it is,or whether its use should be punished by humans rather than Allah.

Thanks for asking
I know the term , just wanted to put it in its simplest form


If you look at that single fact & that there are between 1.6 million to 2 billion muslims on the planet , you can see why western banking, could be very nervous of Islam & then in essence why Capitalism would try to add even more reason to the spread of islamaphobia on such a wide scale in the press.

This is abgreat video on Riba , but it can also expose the capitalist west's fear, while also adding fuel to already lit hate of Islam .

I wish you would stop pretending to be in sync with Islam it makes my stomach churn
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Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:58 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:55 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:21 pm

Think the term your looking for is Riba

While Muslims agree that riba is prohibited, not all agree on what precisely it is,or whether its use should be punished by humans rather than Allah.

Thanks for asking
I know the term , just wanted to put it in its simplest form


If you look at that single fact & that there are between 1.6 million to 2 billion muslims on the planet , you can see why western banking, could be very nervous of Islam & then in essence why Capitalism would try to add even more reason to the spread of islamaphobia on such a wide scale in the press.

This is a great video on Riba , but it can also expose the capitalist west's fear, while also adding fuel to already lit hate of Islam .

I wish you would stop pretending to be in sync with Islam it makes my stomach churn
Im not in sync with any religion
As for your stomach churning its probably just acid
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:02 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:58 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:55 pm

I know the term , just wanted to put it in its simplest form


If you look at that single fact & that there are between 1.6 million to 2 billion muslims on the planet , you can see why western banking, could be very nervous of Islam & then in essence why Capitalism would try to add even more reason to the spread of islamaphobia on such a wide scale in the press.

This is abgreat video on Riba , but it can also expose the capitalist west's fear, while also adding fuel to already lit hate of Islam .

I wish you would stop pretending to be in sync with Islam it makes my stomach churn
Im not in sync with any religion
As for your stomach churning its probably just acid
Could of fooled me

Never did get your big reveal did we
I think google must of hit a dead end
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Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:43 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:02 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:58 pm

I wish you would stop pretending to be in sync with Islam it makes my stomach churn
Im not in sync with any religion
As for your stomach churning its probably just acid
Could of fooled me

Never did get your big reveal did we
I think google must of hit a dead end
Big Reveal ?

Lol obviously you didnt get it but quite a few did 😂😂
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Esteban wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:57 pm Contemporary philosopher John Gray raises a strong argument that all forms of political and economic ideology are a form of religion. They have rules, mantras and moral belief systems, much like religion. In some cases they even have messiah figures (e.g. Mao, Stalin, Il- Sung).

The bloke who wrote “Saipans” and “Homo Dues” has a pretty similar argument too.

A religion doesn’t necessarily have to have a deity (e.g. Buddhism), so it’s not entirely ridiculous to claim that things like capitalism are a type of religion.
Worth noting that capitalism is also depends on having faith in the invisible hand of the market to move business along.
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:11 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:43 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:02 pm

Im not in sync with any religion
As for your stomach churning its probably just acid
Could of fooled me

Never did get your big reveal did we
I think google must of hit a dead end
Big Reveal ?

Lol obviously you didnt get it but quite a few did 😂😂
Nobody got it in fact everyone’s still waiting
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Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:52 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:11 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:43 pm

Could of fooled me

Never did get your big reveal did we
I think google must of hit a dead end
Big Reveal ?

Lol obviously you didnt get it but quite a few did 😂😂
Nobody got it in fact everyone’s still waiting
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=385&start=75

Just read the 1st comment by Baz , should explain it for you . If not re-read the thread chap
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Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:35 pmJelek babi😋
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:55 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:21 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:05 pm

I doubt it doh but Capitalism could not have existed without the Catholic church specifically.

Im sure we could say its been around in other smaller forms but ancient greece was run as Socialism

A Khibbutz is a socialist life

It is forbidden in the qu'ran to make profit from loans .
Think the term your looking for is Riba

While Muslims agree that riba is prohibited, not all agree on what precisely it is,or whether its use should be punished by humans rather than Allah.

Thanks for asking
I know the term , just wanted to put it in its simplest form


If you look at that single fact & that there are between 1.6 million to 2 billion muslims on the planet , you can see why western banking, could be very nervous of Islam & then in essence why Capitalism would try to add even more reason to the spread of islamaphobia on such a wide scale in the press.

This is a great video on Riba , but it can also expose the capitalist west's fear, while also adding fuel to already lit hate of Islam .

How do they structure borrowings/mortgages etc to get around this?
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CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:35 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:55 pm
Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:21 pm

Think the term your looking for is Riba

While Muslims agree that riba is prohibited, not all agree on what precisely it is,or whether its use should be punished by humans rather than Allah.

Thanks for asking
I know the term , just wanted to put it in its simplest form


If you look at that single fact & that there are between 1.6 million to 2 billion muslims on the planet , you can see why western banking, could be very nervous of Islam & then in essence why Capitalism would try to add even more reason to the spread of islamaphobia on such a wide scale in the press.

This is a great video on Riba , but it can also expose the capitalist west's fear, while also adding fuel to already lit hate of Islam .

How do they structure borrowings/mortgages etc to get around this?
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/islamicbanking.asp
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Do you believe everything you scrape off google tuffers

It’s embarrassing
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Lucky7 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:13 pm Do you believe everything you scrape off google tuffers

It’s embarrassing
Well only some things .

I believe this is a song by you 😂

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