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Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:16 pm Could Ross run a successful paper merchants? Probably not. Could I do what he does...no...well actually I could, and he knows that, even now.
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Who does your tantrums?
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PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:41 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:16 pm Could Ross run a successful paper merchants? Probably not. Could I do what he does...no...well actually I could, and he knows that, even now.
Can I ask ya summit?

Who does your tantrums?

When I'm asked if uninspired team talks or random players in random positions is my forte I say that I dont think that they have to be mutually exclusive.
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Re: Ross

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Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:53 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:41 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:16 pm Could Ross run a successful paper merchants? Probably not. Could I do what he does...no...well actually I could, and he knows that, even now.
Can I ask ya summit?

Who does your tantrums?

When I'm asked if uninspired team talks or random players in random positions is my forte I say that I dont think that they have to be mutually exclusive.
I'll give you three wingers, and another two if you need them?

Wilkinson.
Angol.
Sotiriou.
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Re: Ross

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PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:00 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:53 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:41 pm

Can I ask ya summit?

Who does your tantrums?

When I'm asked if uninspired team talks or random players in random positions is my forte I say that I dont think that they have to be mutually exclusive.
I'll give you three wingers, and another two if you need them?

Wilkinson.
Angol.
Sotiriou.
4-4-3 devised and managed by Ross Embelton.

Ross, I dont understand.

Well...you throw a striker on the wing and...

Not the formation, why you are doing this when you are supposed to be managing a professional football club.
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Re: Ross

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Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:05 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:00 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:53 pm


When I'm asked if uninspired team talks or random players in random positions is my forte I say that I dont think that they have to be mutually exclusive.
I'll give you three wingers, and another two if you need them?

Wilkinson.
Angol.
Sotiriou.
4-4-3 devised and managed by Ross Embelton.

Ross, I dont understand.

Well...you throw a striker on the wing and...

Not the formation, why you are doing this when you are supposed to be managing a professional football club.
I gave a speech in training, only this morning, assuring them that there would not be players playing out of position at this club, and there certainly wouldn't be lopsided 4-3-3's. So...
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Re: Ross

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PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:12 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:05 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:00 pm

I'll give you three wingers, and another two if you need them?

Wilkinson.
Angol.
Sotiriou.
4-4-3 devised and managed by Ross Embelton.

Ross, I dont understand.

Well...you throw a striker on the wing and...

Not the formation, why you are doing this when you are supposed to be managing a professional football club.
I gave a speech in training, only this morning, assuring them that there would not be players playing out of position at this club, and there certainly wouldn't be lopsided 4-3-3's. So...
Sometimes an amateur will upstage a professional
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Re: Boss

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Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:13 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:12 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:05 pm
4-4-3 devised and managed by Boss Embelton.

Boss, I dont understand.

Well...you throw a striker on the wing and...

Not the formation, why you are doing this when you are supposed to be managing a professional football club.
I gave a speech in training, only this morning, assuring them that there would not be players playing out of position at this club, and there certainly wouldn't be lopsided 4-3-3's. So...
Sometimes an amateur will upstage a professional
Good, keen. Alright, well watch where I place the right back position. All I want you to do is shout out, and shout mind, safe or dangerous, think you can manage that?

Sam Ling?
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Re: Boss

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PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:35 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:13 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:12 pm

I gave a speech in training, only this morning, assuring them that there would not be players playing out of position at this club, and there certainly wouldn't be lopsided 4-3-3's. So...
Sometimes an amateur will upstage a professional
Good, keen. Alright, well watch where I place the right back position. All I want you to do is shout out, and shout mind, safe or dangerous, think you can manage that?

Sam Ling?
Ahhh Ross good timing...We were just discussing ultimate fantasy.

Erm, two strikers playing on the wings, unfit probably.
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Re: Boss

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Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:38 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:35 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:13 pm
Sometimes an amateur will upstage a professional
Good, keen. Alright, well watch where I place the right back position. All I want you to do is shout out, and shout mind, safe or dangerous, think you can manage that?

Sam Ling?
Ahhh Boss good timing...We were just discussing ultimate fantasy.

Erm, two strikers playing on the wings, unfit probably.
I'm just shouting.
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Re: Boss

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Since he was officially announced as permanent head coach, his record has been:
P 11, W 5, D 3, L 3

That's not a bad start
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Re: Boss

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Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:13 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:12 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:05 pm
4-4-3 devised and managed by Boss Embelton.

Boss, I dont understand.

Well...you throw a striker on the wing and...

Not the formation, why you are doing this when you are supposed to be managing a professional football club.
I gave a speech in training, only this morning, assuring them that there would not be players playing out of position at this club, and there certainly wouldn't be lopsided 4-3-3's. So...
Sometimes an amateur will upstage a professional
Put the Playstation away !!
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Re: Boss

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BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:27 pm
Adz wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:53 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:29 am
That's not true.
5 years of non league management 20 years ago barely counts
Doesn’t it? You said virtually no experience. 5 years is substantial.

If you want to compare a man with 5 years managerial experience who then went on to be assistant manager of a world cup winning team with Boss Embleton, crack on.
He hadn't managed a team in 15 years and never at even a remotely comparable level to Bayern. Would you have been happy with an appointment like that at Orient? My point is that it's pretty much impossible to know who will be a successful manager or not. Time will tell whether Ross will be or not, but he will have my support until such time as I think he is detrimental to the club. In my lifetime Frank Clark was probably the best manager we've had, and I remember the Clark out chants for about half a season until he was able to turn it around. It takes time to build a team and get them playing your style of football, but this seems to have been forgotten in recent years by many.
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Re: Boss

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Adz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:51 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:27 pm
Adz wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:53 am

5 years of non league management 20 years ago barely counts
Doesn’t it? You said virtually no experience. 5 years is substantial.

If you want to compare a man with 5 years managerial experience who then went on to be assistant manager of a world cup winning team with Boss Embleton, crack on.
He hadn't managed a team in 15 years and never at even a remotely comparable level to Bayern. Would you have been happy with an appointment like that at Orient? My point is that it's pretty much impossible to know who will be a successful manager or not. Time will tell whether Boss will be or not, but he will have my support until such time as I think he is detrimental to the club. In my lifetime Frank Clark was probably the best manager we've had, and I remember the Clark out chants for about half a season until he was able to turn it around. It takes time to build a team and get them playing your style of football, but this seems to have been forgotten in recent years by many.
Would I be happy with a bloke who won the league 4 times and champions league as a player. Who went on to manage at a low level before being assistant manager during a world cup win? Yes.

How does a man who did terribly and then say he doesn’t want to do it anymore, go on to get the job full time?
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:32 am
Adz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:51 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:27 pm
Doesn’t it? You said virtually no experience. 5 years is substantial.

If you want to compare a man with 5 years managerial experience who then went on to be assistant manager of a world cup winning team with Boss Embleton, crack on.
He hadn't managed a team in 15 years and never at even a remotely comparable level to Bayern. Would you have been happy with an appointment like that at Orient? My point is that it's pretty much impossible to know who will be a successful manager or not. Time will tell whether Boss will be or not, but he will have my support until such time as I think he is detrimental to the club. In my lifetime Frank Clark was probably the best manager we've had, and I remember the Clark out chants for about half a season until he was able to turn it around. It takes time to build a team and get them playing your style of football, but this seems to have been forgotten in recent years by many.
Would I be happy with a bloke who won the league 4 times and champions league as a player. Who went on to manage at a low level before being assistant manager during a world cup win? Yes.

How does a man who did terribly and then say he doesn’t want to do it anymore, go on to get the job full time?
Carl Fl*tcher did TERRIBLE
R O S S the boss did ok both sides of Fl#tcher considering
his mate whose job he took over popped his clogs
a few months before that .

Something you constantly forget to take on board .

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I can't believe people are still moaning about his appointment. Seriously, get over it!
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Re: Boss

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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:32 am
Adz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:51 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:27 pm
Doesn’t it? You said virtually no experience. 5 years is substantial.

If you want to compare a man with 5 years managerial experience who then went on to be assistant manager of a world cup winning team with Boss Embleton, crack on.
He hadn't managed a team in 15 years and never at even a remotely comparable level to Bayern. Would you have been happy with an appointment like that at Orient? My point is that it's pretty much impossible to know who will be a successful manager or not. Time will tell whether Boss will be or not, but he will have my support until such time as I think he is detrimental to the club. In my lifetime Frank Clark was probably the best manager we've had, and I remember the Clark out chants for about half a season until he was able to turn it around. It takes time to build a team and get them playing your style of football, but this seems to have been forgotten in recent years by many.
Would I be happy with a bloke who won the league 4 times and champions league as a player. Who went on to manage at a low level before being assistant manager during a world cup win? Yes.

How does a man who did terribly and then say he doesn’t want to do it anymore, go on to get the job full time?
Sorry I should have rephrased the question, obviously he'd be fine for orient, the Orient equivalent to that appointment would be someone who managed in the isthmian league for 5 years 15 years ago and had been assistant at a league one team for the last couple of years. Dunno about you, but that wouldn't impress me and I can't imagine many bayern fans were thinking this is the guy who's gonna turn our season around.

Dunno how they came to the decision to give RE the job, he wouldn't have been my choice, but a couple of very successful businessmen in Travis and Teague trust him so I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not sure what your expectations are for the season but will be happy if we can finish mid table and then build on that next season.
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Adz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:03 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:32 am
Adz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:51 am

He hadn't managed a team in 15 years and never at even a remotely comparable level to Bayern. Would you have been happy with an appointment like that at Orient? My point is that it's pretty much impossible to know who will be a successful manager or not. Time will tell whether Boss will be or not, but he will have my support until such time as I think he is detrimental to the club. In my lifetime Frank Clark was probably the best manager we've had, and I remember the Clark out chants for about half a season until he was able to turn it around. It takes time to build a team and get them playing your style of football, but this seems to have been forgotten in recent years by many.
Would I be happy with a bloke who won the league 4 times and champions league as a player. Who went on to manage at a low level before being assistant manager during a world cup win? Yes.

How does a man who did terribly and then say he doesn’t want to do it anymore, go on to get the job full time?
Sorry I should have rephrased the question, obviously he'd be fine for orient, the Orient equivalent to that appointment would be someone who managed in the isthmian league for 5 years 15 years ago and had been assistant at a league one team for the last couple of years. Dunno about you, but that wouldn't impress me and I can't imagine many bayern fans were thinking this is the guy who's gonna turn our season around.

Dunno how they came to the decision to give RE the job, he wouldn't have been my choice, but a couple of very successful businessmen in Travis and Teague trust him so I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not sure what your expectations are for the season but will be happy if we can finish mid table and then build on that next season.
He was Kovac’s assistant and took the job on a caretaker basis. He was then rewarded with it on a fulltime basis after he turned their season around and got them playing great football. As someone who goes to watch Bayern Munich and is friends with Bayern fans, I know exactly how they felt about it.

They trust Martin Ling. I’ll be happy with midtable given the state of the squad but I want to see progression in the players and the team, something that has only gone backwards.
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tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:46 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:32 am
Adz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:51 am

He hadn't managed a team in 15 years and never at even a remotely comparable level to Bayern. Would you have been happy with an appointment like that at Orient? My point is that it's pretty much impossible to know who will be a successful manager or not. Time will tell whether Boss will be or not, but he will have my support until such time as I think he is detrimental to the club. In my lifetime Frank Clark was probably the best manager we've had, and I remember the Clark out chants for about half a season until he was able to turn it around. It takes time to build a team and get them playing your style of football, but this seems to have been forgotten in recent years by many.
Would I be happy with a bloke who won the league 4 times and champions league as a player. Who went on to manage at a low level before being assistant manager during a world cup win? Yes.

How does a man who did terribly and then say he doesn’t want to do it anymore, go on to get the job full time?
Carl Fl*tcher did TERRIBLE
R O S S the boss did ok both sides of Fl#tcher considering
his mate whose job he took over popped his clogs
a few months before that .

Something you constantly forget to take on board .

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Carl Fletcher shouldn’t have got the job. Embleton shouldn’t have been forced to take it on full time.
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:11 am
Adz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:03 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:32 am
Would I be happy with a bloke who won the league 4 times and champions league as a player. Who went on to manage at a low level before being assistant manager during a world cup win? Yes.

How does a man who did terribly and then say he doesn’t want to do it anymore, go on to get the job full time?
Sorry I should have rephrased the question, obviously he'd be fine for orient, the Orient equivalent to that appointment would be someone who managed in the isthmian league for 5 years 15 years ago and had been assistant at a league one team for the last couple of years. Dunno about you, but that wouldn't impress me and I can't imagine many bayern fans were thinking this is the guy who's gonna turn our season around.

Dunno how they came to the decision to give RE the job, he wouldn't have been my choice, but a couple of very successful businessmen in Travis and Teague trust him so I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not sure what your expectations are for the season but will be happy if we can finish mid table and then build on that next season.
He was Kovac’s assistant and took the job on a caretaker basis. He was then rewarded with it on a fulltime basis after he turned their season around and got them playing great football. As someone who goes to watch Bayern Munich and is friends with Bayern fans, I know exactly how they felt about it.

They trust Martin Ling. I’ll be happy with midtable given the state of the squad but I want to see progression in the players and the team, something that has only gone backwards.
Nobody decent wanted it
If the 4 who applied had got it theyd have
Been laughed out of town !
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Although I know we've been here before, Im going to ask the question, if we are finding ourselves in a relegation battle, in the new year, will the club have the guts to sack R oss?
Im not so sure they will, even though it was said at the time of his permanent appointment, and as a side issue, if they did, would Ling go too, as R oss is his protege, and almost like a son to him.
Personally, I think in the circumstances above , R oss will not get sacked, but moved 'sideways', and a new Head Coach brought in.
Having said all this, We may be nowhere near a relegation battle......I hope not, Im sick of them over the last 50 odd years
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tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:05 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:11 am
Adz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:03 am

Sorry I should have rephrased the question, obviously he'd be fine for orient, the Orient equivalent to that appointment would be someone who managed in the isthmian league for 5 years 15 years ago and had been assistant at a league one team for the last couple of years. Dunno about you, but that wouldn't impress me and I can't imagine many bayern fans were thinking this is the guy who's gonna turn our season around.

Dunno how they came to the decision to give RE the job, he wouldn't have been my choice, but a couple of very successful businessmen in Travis and Teague trust him so I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not sure what your expectations are for the season but will be happy if we can finish mid table and then build on that next season.
He was Kovac’s assistant and took the job on a caretaker basis. He was then rewarded with it on a fulltime basis after he turned their season around and got them playing great football. As someone who goes to watch Bayern Munich and is friends with Bayern fans, I know exactly how they felt about it.

They trust Martin Ling. I’ll be happy with midtable given the state of the squad but I want to see progression in the players and the team, something that has only gone backwards.
Nobody decent wanted it
If the 4 who applied had got it theyd have
Been laughed out of town !
Are you calling Martin Ling a liar? He had a process.
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:37 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:05 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:11 am
He was Kovac’s assistant and took the job on a caretaker basis. He was then rewarded with it on a fulltime basis after he turned their season around and got them playing great football. As someone who goes to watch Bayern Munich and is friends with Bayern fans, I know exactly how they felt about it.

They trust Martin Ling. I’ll be happy with midtable given the state of the squad but I want to see progression in the players and the team, something that has only gone backwards.
Nobody decent wanted it
If the 4 who applied had got it theyd have
Been laughed out of town !
Are you calling Martin Ling a liar? He had a process.
Nope
I'm Quoting him though !
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