Holidays 2020

[BIGRON]

A friend of mine is in Spain now , he returns Saturday and says he will not isolate for 14 days , how will the powers that be keep a check on thousands of people returning

[JimbO]

A friend of mine is in Spain now , he returns Saturday and says he will not isolate for 14 days , how will the powers that be keep a check on thousands of people returning

Then Ron you have to say that they are a bit of a selfish tw*t and putting lives at risk.

[BIGRON]

Agree but he's a stubborn b*stard

[Dunners]

It's really not that straightforward. The quarantine 'policy' is, quite frankly, a load of bollox and I really do not blame anyone for ignoring it. Think about it for a moment:

1. You are being asked to fill out a travel declaration form. However, you are entitled to arrive without having done so and (according to reports from travellers arriving in the UK) nobody actually checks. Seriously, look it up.

2. If you were to properly quarantine, you would need to be collected as you disembark from your flight and taken to a special detention centre or hotel. This is what happens in countries where they have a proper quarantine policy.

3. Instead, in the UK, you can mingle about in the airport before getting on the tube or any other form of public transport as you head off to your home. Once there, sure, you are meant to quarantine for 14 days. But who is going to actually enforce that? Many UK police forces have already publicly stated that they will not be enforcing government policies, such as this and the wearing of face masks on shops.

4. Quarantine is a policy that this government have introduced as a half-arsed measure, purely to make them look good while it does everything it can to deflect from the way they handled the crisis in care homes. That is the real scandal.

5. Quarantine - when managed effectively (see point 2 above) - at least makes some sense as a strategy. Sure, some will agree or disagree with it, but there's at least logic to it. There's zero logic to this. Which means we're being played.

6. Quite how we're being played is anyone's guess. It may just be about deflection of the care home disaster. It may be so that, when there's a future enquiry, the government can point to this decision and say, "oh, but look how decisive we were." Or it may be that, as we have our foot on Spain throat, we're using this as part of some behind the scenes negotiation for trade post-Brexit. But whatever it is, it is not about quarantine or your health.

[Long slender neck]

You're still going then?

[Dunners]

Nah, the FCO extending its "no travel" advice to the islands (which also makes little sense) would invalidate our insurance, and I'm not prepared to risk that. Thankfully we're fully covered, so wont be out of pocket.

But, should the FCO advice change before next Tuesday then we'll be off.

[Ornchurch]

It's really not that straightforward. The quarantine 'policy' is, quite frankly, a load of bollox and I really do not blame anyone for ignoring it. Think about it for a moment:

1. You are being asked to fill out a travel declaration form. However, you are entitled to arrive without having done so and (according to reports from travellers arriving in the UK) nobody actually checks. Seriously, look it up.

2. If you were to properly quarantine, you would need to be collected as you disembark from your flight and taken to a special detention centre or hotel. This is what happens in countries where they have a proper quarantine policy.

3. Instead, in the UK, you can mingle about in the airport before getting on the tube or any other form of public transport as you head off to your home. Once there, sure, you are meant to quarantine for 14 days. But who is going to actually enforce that? Many UK police forces have already publicly stated that they will not be enforcing government policies, such as this and the wearing of face masks on shops.

4. Quarantine is a policy that this government have introduced as a half-arsed measure, purely to make them look good while it does everything it can to deflect from the way they handled the crisis in care homes. That is the real scandal.

5. Quarantine - when managed effectively (see point 2 above) - at least makes some sense as a strategy. Sure, some will agree or disagree with it, but there's at least logic to it. There's zero logic to this. Which means we're being played.

6. Quite how we're being played is anyone's guess. It may just be about deflection of the care home disaster. It may be so that, when there's a future enquiry, the government can point to this decision and say, "oh, but look how decisive we were." Or it may be that, as we have our foot on Spain throat, we're using this as part of some behind the scenes negotiation for trade post-Brexit. But whatever it is, it is not about quarantine or your health.

With issues like quarantine any government can only suggest it as any attempt to implement robustly will fail over Human Rights. Where did that come from?

[Mikero]

I thought the weight-loss campaign was the smoke screen to distract from the care home scandal.

Mikero

[Beradogs]

It’s not really about whether the government says yes or no or stay or go. It’s about personally responsibility. We are in the middle of a global pandemic and there is more chance of you picking up something and more importantly, passing it on, by travelling. Why the need to go abroad? I just don’t get it.

[Ornchurch]

It’s not really about whether the government says yes or no or stay or go. It’s about personally responsibility. We are in the middle of a global pandemic and there is more chance of you picking up something and more importantly, passing it on, by travelling. Why the need to go abroad? I just don’t get it.

Exactly that. Personal responsibility.

I am still shielding so am avoiding shops as much as possible but had to pop in to B&Q on Sunday.
Less than 50% of other shoppers were wearing masks.

People just don't like being told what to do.

[Dunners]

It’s not really about whether the government says yes or no or stay or go. It’s about personally responsibility. We are in the middle of a global pandemic and there is more chance of you picking up something and more importantly, passing it on, by travelling. Why the need to go abroad? I just don’t get it.

It's alright for you living up there on that hill in Wales.

Actually, I've just a had an idea of where I'll go instead once the insurance money comes through. Might invite a few mates and make a bit of a racket too.

[Beradogs]

The hills are aliiiivvve with the sound of dunners (and his mates)

[Orient_Man_And_Boy]

A friend of mine is in Spain now , he returns Saturday and says he will not isolate for 14 days , how will the powers that be keep a check on thousands of people returning

Anybody want to be a chancer …

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe ... ting-story

[BIGRON]

Boris reckons the 2nd wave is kicking in

[Dunners]

For anyone still thinking of going away, in particular to Spain against FCO advice, you might want to grab yourself some warzone insurance: www.battleface.com

T&C apply, obviously, but it seems to cover for a lot of the disruption that ordinary travel insurance wont. Out of curiosity I got a quote for a family of four going to Spain, and it quoted me £120.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Booked a long weekend up in the north yorks moors for september pending second wave. Cancelled a couple of trips and was hoping to get away before a kid arrives but obviously got no chance.

[Dunners]

We were looking at UK options, as the FCO advice for Spain means we can now claim our money back. But everything half-decent is all booked up.

[HARVEY T DENTON]

You can buy my two weeks in Oldham if you fancy it?

[Dunners]

Nah, you're alright mate. I just booked a villa in Rochdale.

[HARVEY T DENTON]

Posh sod.

[Dohnut]

I should be in Reno, Nevada right now. Been booked and planned for months. But in the greater scheme of things disruption to my holidays with family is minor compared to what others are suffering.

Looked at a Caravan for a 3 nights. £800+. Gave that a miss. Nothing special but far too expensive.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I should be in Reno, Nevada right now. Been booked and planned for months. But in the greater scheme of things disruption to my holidays with family is minor compared to what others are suffering.

Looked at a Caravan for a 3 nights. £800+. Gave that a miss. Nothing special but far too expensive.

So gracious. Well done you.

[Dunners]

Agreed. It at least means there's now a caravan going spare for a family in need.

[Currywurst and Chips]

It's really not that straightforward. The quarantine 'policy' is, quite frankly, a load of bollox and I really do not blame anyone for ignoring it. Think about it for a moment:

1. You are being asked to fill out a travel declaration form. However, you are entitled to arrive without having done so and (according to reports from travellers arriving in the UK) nobody actually checks. Seriously, look it up.

2. If you were to properly quarantine, you would need to be collected as you disembark from your flight and taken to a special detention centre or hotel. This is what happens in countries where they have a proper quarantine policy.

3. Instead, in the UK, you can mingle about in the airport before getting on the tube or any other form of public transport as you head off to your home. Once there, sure, you are meant to quarantine for 14 days. But who is going to actually enforce that? Many UK police forces have already publicly stated that they will not be enforcing government policies, such as this and the wearing of face masks on shops.

4. Quarantine is a policy that this government have introduced as a half-arsed measure, purely to make them look good while it does everything it can to deflect from the way they handled the crisis in care homes. That is the real scandal.

5. Quarantine - when managed effectively (see point 2 above) - at least makes some sense as a strategy. Sure, some will agree or disagree with it, but there's at least logic to it. There's zero logic to this. Which means we're being played.

6. Quite how we're being played is anyone's guess. It may just be about deflection of the care home disaster. It may be so that, when there's a future enquiry, the government can point to this decision and say, "oh, but look how decisive we were." Or it may be that, as we have our foot on Spain throat, we're using this as part of some behind the scenes negotiation for trade post-Brexit. But whatever it is, it is not about quarantine or your health.

Actually they are but it's a very very small percentage of the probable thousands

[Disoriented]

I should be in Reno, Nevada right now. Been booked and planned for months. But in the greater scheme of things disruption to my holidays with family is minor compared to what others are suffering.

Looked at a Caravan for a 3 nights. £800+. Gave that a miss. Nothing special but far too expensive.

So gracious. Well done you.