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Not as bad as 40 years ago with Tebbitt and Lamont.Real Al wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:22 pmThe Normans are still royally f*cking it up over here though.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:29 pm Every occupying force in history has had to leave eventually, and Israel will be no different
Whilst I partly agree, given the apparent peace deal last week (according to Thor, the masterpiece of the orange one), I think it's an extremely relevant news story right now.slacker wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:04 am But it's such a regular occurence it has become quite mundane (unless you happen to be on the receiving end of the shellacking, of course) and therefore not "newsworthy". A bit like the ongoing stuff in Yemen (and other hotspots elsewhere, no doubt). I think you can read too much into the lack of coverage.
Ah, is the BBC a tool of the current Tory government, or run by lefties? I can never remember.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:59 am We know the BBC is a government controlled organization, these days,
Are the beeb the only news meda outlet that is struggling to put this all across ?ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:59 am We know the BBC is a government controlled organization, these days, but if one thing showed this, its the complete lack of even a squeak of reporting the terrible bombings of Gaza by Israel for 10 nights on the trot.
The establishments complete whitewashing of every bad thing Israel does is sickening, and frankly, obscene
Do you consider that commensurate retaliation........Seriously?
No. And I wasn't questioning whether the retaliation was commensurate. Not sure why you feel posting laughing emojis in respone to posts with questions is a good look either.NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:42 pmDo you consider that commensurate retaliation........Seriously?
FFS!
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/ ... 38833.html
Good point, and I've no idea.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:32 pm Hamas were only formed in 1984, so what was Israels excuse for their atrocities before that date?
My opinion is, that as Israel 'stole' the Palestinians land, evicted their people, and basically practised ethnic cleansing, even before the term ethnic cleansing was being used, it isnt hard to understand why the Palestinians, feel they need to make a 'statement' to show their frustration at such injustice.Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:39 pmGood point, and I've no idea.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:32 pm Hamas were only formed in 1984, so what was Israels excuse for their atrocities before that date?
But how long would you suggest is reasonable for Israel to take a few slaps from Hamas before the score is settled sufficiently, and it would be fair game for any Israeli retaliation?
You actually linked to Rachel Swindon LOLNuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:26 am Eight days of continual bombing in Gaza.........yet the BBC remains silent.
The British Broadcasting Company doesn't consider it newsworthy. Ask yourself why that is?
Oh hang on. I can't seem to find it covered in any of the UK media.
Now why is that?
I wonder whether it would be considered a 'newsworthy' story though, if just one rocket was sent from the other direction?
http://rachaelswindon.blogspot.com/2020 ... ce-of.html
Fair enough. Thanks for replying.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:47 pmMy opinion is, that as Israel 'stole' the Palestinians land, evicted their people, and basically practised ethnic cleansing, even before the term ethnic cleansing was being used, it isnt hard to understand why the Palestinians, feel they need to make a 'statement' to show their frustration at such injustice.Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:39 pmGood point, and I've no idea.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:32 pm Hamas were only formed in 1984, so what was Israels excuse for their atrocities before that date?
But how long would you suggest is reasonable for Israel to take a few slaps from Hamas before the score is settled sufficiently, and it would be fair game for any Israeli retaliation?
They feel no one is on their side, and the world sits by, turning their backs, and allowing Israel to basically do what ever they want.
Hamas's actions pale into insignificance compared to the absolute pasting they get on a regular basis, from Israel.
No other state in the history of the world, has been able to get away with what Israel gets away with, so they should suck up a few rockets coming over the border
Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:06 pmFair enough. Thanks for replying.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:47 pmMy opinion is, that as Israel 'stole' the Palestinians land, evicted their people, and basically practised ethnic cleansing, even before the term ethnic cleansing was being used, it isnt hard to understand why the Palestinians, feel they need to make a 'statement' to show their frustration at such injustice.
They feel no one is on their side, and the world sits by, turning their backs, and allowing Israel to basically do what ever they want.
Hamas's actions pale into insignificance compared to the absolute pasting they get on a regular basis, from Israel.
No other state in the history of the world, has been able to get away with what Israel gets away with, so they should suck up a few rockets coming over the border
I'd politely suggest that there are some people on their side. I'm thinking those fair minded rulers in Iran and sections of the left in Western democracies (I.e. Corbyn, AOC etc). However, I take your point that nobody who matters thinks their actions are justifiable, which must be disappointing.
But, just so I'm clear on your last statement: Are you saying that, should an Israeli child have their arms blown off by a Hamas balloon bomb, the parents should shrug it off with a "oh well, that's kama" and not expect their elected government to do anything?
(I'm not defending Israeli actions against civilians BTW, especially if unprovoked)
What news outlets do you suggest for balanced reporting on Arab/Israeli conflict?ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:59 am We know the BBC is a government controlled organization, these days, but if one thing showed this, its the complete lack of even a squeak of reporting the terrible bombings of Gaza by Israel for 10 nights on the trot.
The establishments complete whitewashing of every bad thing Israel does is sickening, and frankly, obscene
Do you think that the BBC is a fair unbiased news reporting organisation then?Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:46 amWhat news outlets do you suggest for balanced reporting on Arab/Israeli conflict?ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:59 am We know the BBC is a government controlled organization, these days, but if one thing showed this, its the complete lack of even a squeak of reporting the terrible bombings of Gaza by Israel for 10 nights on the trot.
The establishments complete whitewashing of every bad thing Israel does is sickening, and frankly, obscene
Some of their programming is, some you can see latent biases from time to timeComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:56 amDo you think that the BBC is a fair unbiased news reporting organisation then?Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:46 amWhat news outlets do you suggest for balanced reporting on Arab/Israeli conflict?ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:59 am We know the BBC is a government controlled organization, these days, but if one thing showed this, its the complete lack of even a squeak of reporting the terrible bombings of Gaza by Israel for 10 nights on the trot.
The establishments complete whitewashing of every bad thing Israel does is sickening, and frankly, obscene
Genuine question!
One of those owned by a psychopathic billionaire.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:30 amSome of their programming is, some you can see latent biases from time to timeComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:56 amDo you think that the BBC is a fair unbiased news reporting organisation then?Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:46 am
What news outlets do you suggest for balanced reporting on Arab/Israeli conflict?
Genuine question!
Anyway, what news outlets would you recommend as an unbiased alternative?
You're going to have to be a little bit more specificRedO wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:42 amOne of those owned by a psychopathic billionaire.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:30 amSome of their programming is, some you can see latent biases from time to timeComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:56 am
Do you think that the BBC is a fair unbiased news reporting organisation then?
Genuine question!
Anyway, what news outlets would you recommend as an unbiased alternative?