Steve Hedley - RMT

[Disoriented]

So see if you can answer this, should Hedley resign? Simple question.

No, but should be reprimanded as regardless of the facts about government incompetence, it does not do his position any good to articulate this view in public.

Not a sacking offence though.

[Eat The Rich]

So see if you can answer this, should Hedley resign? Simple question.

If a political leader resigned every time they said something hateful we'd have very few politicians left. I mean how many groups of people has Boris offended with his racist filth? Actually that's a good point... when was the last time a Tory had to resign (and stayed resigned for more than five minutes) after saying something disgusting?

I also think its utter moral hypocrisy to find Hedley's comments beyond the pale when we live in a world where this Tory government are responsible for such misery. If you find Steve Hedley's comments worthy of resignation then what punishment should we demanding of Tories who voted for IDS welfare reforms which have lead to such appalling suffering and death. In other words get your priorities straight!

[Oforever]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

[Eat The Rich]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

[Disoriented]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

To be fair, he is a bit thick and doesn’t seem to grasp the truth like the grown-ups.

[Oforever]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

What right do you have to abuse people you don't agree with? You lose an argument and resort to name calling. Grow up.

[Eat The Rich]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

What right do you have to abuse people you don't agree with? You lose an argument and resort to name calling. Grow up.

I didn't lose the argument, we didn't have one. For a brief moment I seriously considered gathering together some links to highlight your monumental wrongness and then I thought, f*ck it. What's the point? You're not going to read them. You're not going to change your opinion. You and your fellow right wing nut jobs have got that gamblers feeling, you know the one where they're already neck deep in sh*t so why stop doing the indefensible now? Might as well keep going.

[Thor]

So see if you can answer this, should Hedley resign? Simple question.

No, but should be reprimanded as regardless of the facts about government incompetence, it does not do his position any good to articulate this view in public.

Not a sacking offence though.

Funny you should that, surprise, surprise. What about the labour mayor who was kicked out the labour party and the law firm she works for sacked her. Hedleys comments are just as bad if not worse. He should be sacked, but let's see how his investigation goes following his suspension first.

[Long slender neck]

For goodness sake, can't you be civil to each other regardless of political opinions?

[Max B Gold]

For goodness sake, can't you be civil to each other regardless of political opinions?

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[Dohnut]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

His comments are rational and sensible. Only the far left extremist would see them otherwise.

[Max B Gold]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

His comments are rational and sensible. Only the far left extremist would see them otherwise.

Only a breast like you could say that.

[Eat The Rich]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

His comments are rational and sensible. Only the far left extremist would see them otherwise.

Do either of you have any experience of welfare or its procedures? I'm guessing very much not given your monumental complacency about the very real death and destruction wrought on the most vulnerable in our society. Do you know anyone that has died after being declared fit for work? Do you know anyone who killed themselves as a result of the stress and humiliation of being treated like a peace of meat by their assessors? Do you know anyone who despite being completely unable to care for themselves was deprived of funding to access care? Again, I'm going to take it that the answer is no. Don't spout your vile nonsense when you know absolutely nothing of which you speak. The welfare reforms were a human catastrophe that deliberately targeted the most vulnerable people. I've seen too many die and have breakdowns to be called an extremist by the likes of you.

[Dohnut]

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

His comments are rational and sensible. Only the far left extremist would see them otherwise.

Do either of you have any experience of welfare or its procedures? I'm guessing very much not given your monumental complacency about the very real death and destruction wrought on the most vulnerable in our society. Do you know anyone that has died after being declared fit for work? Do you know anyone who killed themselves as a result of the stress and humiliation of being treated like a peace of meat by their assessors? Do you know anyone who despite being completely unable to care for themselves was deprived of funding to access care? Again, I'm going to take it that the answer is no. Don't spout your vile nonsense when you know absolutely nothing of which you speak. The welfare reforms were a human catastrophe that deliberately targeted the most vulnerable people. I've seen too many die and have breakdowns to be called an extremist by the likes of you.

Your assumptions are wrong in the points you raise. But I have no desire to expand on personal matters on a forum and will keep them private. Happy to let you believe you are the only person to have such experiences. You are an extremist. And an exceptionally rude one too.

[Eat The Rich]

His comments are rational and sensible. Only the far left extremist would see them otherwise.

Do either of you have any experience of welfare or its procedures? I'm guessing very much not given your monumental complacency about the very real death and destruction wrought on the most vulnerable in our society. Do you know anyone that has died after being declared fit for work? Do you know anyone who killed themselves as a result of the stress and humiliation of being treated like a peace of meat by their assessors? Do you know anyone who despite being completely unable to care for themselves was deprived of funding to access care? Again, I'm going to take it that the answer is no. Don't spout your vile nonsense when you know absolutely nothing of which you speak. The welfare reforms were a human catastrophe that deliberately targeted the most vulnerable people. I've seen too many die and have breakdowns to be called an extremist by the likes of you.

Your assumptions are wrong in the points you raise. But I have no desire to expand on personal matters on a forum and will keep them private. Happy to let you believe you are the only person to have such experiences. You are an extremist. And an exceptionally rude one too.

If my assumptions are wrong then you should bloody well know better! Even if your experience was better than most you should still have the common decency to sympathise with those that weren't as lucky as you. If you are, as you appear to be, defending the Tories and their welfare reforms then you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

[point nine one eight]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

What a nasty piece of work you are, a complete disgrace

[Eat The Rich]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

What a nasty piece of work you are, a complete disgrace

Yes, what is nasty is the person drawing attention to government policy that has resulted in the needless deaths of the most vulnerable not the policy and its pathological defenders. Seriously check your moral compass, its faulty.

[Eat The Rich]

I think I've just reached a point where I'm too old and life's too short to play these silly games where we all pretend that when poor people die what's called for is polite and civil conversation where nothing ever changes. Screw that. This government is morally abhorrent and I'm going to say so. People that support this government are equally morally abhorrent.

[LittleMate]

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

What a nasty piece of work you are, a complete disgrace

Yes, what is nasty is the person drawing attention to government policy that has resulted in the needless deaths of the most vulnerable not the policy and its pathological defenders. Seriously check your moral compass, its faulty.

At the same time you should check your own. No need to lash out at anyone against you. Its a discussion not a fight - and don't use the topic in question to justify your attitude.

[BoniO]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

And with that comment you reveal you are absolutely clueless. What an utter specimen you are. Go and crawl back under your rock you odious f*cking creature.

His comments are rational and sensible. Only the far left extremist would see them otherwise.

No they're not. Faced with overwhelming evidence that this government has royally f*cked up so many Tories just seem to be happy to remain "true blue" and blame any criticism of the government as just "sour grapes", typical left wingers etc etc. Try engaging brain, look at all the evidence and then come back and enlighten us just how the government has done a stirling job.

[tuffers#1]

What utter rubbish. For a start when did a Tory last day they would have a party when someone died? IDS reforms were long overdue, one system replacing several. Appealing differing and death? Get real.
Now try to get back to football talk.

Didnt Boris get Sacked because his mate Darius
Wanted somebody killed ?

Do you remember that ?

Boris said ill get you a number of someone
old buddy , were school friends ,
Youre a lovely lad

[BoniO]

His comments are rational and sensible. Only the far left extremist would see them otherwise.

Do either of you have any experience of welfare or its procedures? I'm guessing very much not given your monumental complacency about the very real death and destruction wrought on the most vulnerable in our society. Do you know anyone that has died after being declared fit for work? Do you know anyone who killed themselves as a result of the stress and humiliation of being treated like a peace of meat by their assessors? Do you know anyone who despite being completely unable to care for themselves was deprived of funding to access care? Again, I'm going to take it that the answer is no. Don't spout your vile nonsense when you know absolutely nothing of which you speak. The welfare reforms were a human catastrophe that deliberately targeted the most vulnerable people. I've seen too many die and have breakdowns to be called an extremist by the likes of you.

Your assumptions are wrong in the points you raise. But I have no desire to expand on personal matters on a forum and will keep them private. Happy to let you believe you are the only person to have such experiences. You are an extremist. And an exceptionally rude one too.

He's not wrong though is he.

[Dohnut]

Do either of you have any experience of welfare or its procedures? I'm guessing very much not given your monumental complacency about the very real death and destruction wrought on the most vulnerable in our society. Do you know anyone that has died after being declared fit for work? Do you know anyone who killed themselves as a result of the stress and humiliation of being treated like a peace of meat by their assessors? Do you know anyone who despite being completely unable to care for themselves was deprived of funding to access care? Again, I'm going to take it that the answer is no. Don't spout your vile nonsense when you know absolutely nothing of which you speak. The welfare reforms were a human catastrophe that deliberately targeted the most vulnerable people. I've seen too many die and have breakdowns to be called an extremist by the likes of you.

Your assumptions are wrong in the points you raise. But I have no desire to expand on personal matters on a forum and will keep them private. Happy to let you believe you are the only person to have such experiences. You are an extremist. And an exceptionally rude one too.

He's not wrong though is he.

Evidence? I bet you cannot provide any. Prove me wrong about my life’s experiences, go on. Knock yourself out.

[BoniO]

Your assumptions are wrong in the points you raise. But I have no desire to expand on personal matters on a forum and will keep them private. Happy to let you believe you are the only person to have such experiences. You are an extremist. And an exceptionally rude one too.

He's not wrong though is he.

Evidence? I bet you cannot provide any. Prove me wrong about my life’s experiences, go on. Knock yourself out.

Why would I want to describe your life Prez, it must be like a Hollywood blockbuster! However, moving on, ETR is absolutely right to point out that the welfare reforms were a human catastrophe. Wouldn't you agree?

[Currywurst and Chips]

Shame this thread went the same way as 75% of threads these days

Was hoping for a railway thread