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Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:46 am
by Mistadobalina
RedO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:00 am
Minimising the damage? You can rebuild the economy. You can support the people affected financially, albeit you might have to tax the rich and the corporations a bit to fund it.
You can’t bring back dead people.
It's not just the economic impact though, is it? People aren't going to tolerate being locked up in their homes indefinitely. The mental and physical health impact of a on/off isolation approach would be unthinkable.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:02 am
by Disoriented
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:46 am
RedO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:00 am
Minimising the damage? You can rebuild the economy. You can support the people affected financially, albeit you might have to tax the rich and the corporations a bit to fund it.
You can’t bring back dead people.
It's not just the economic impact though, is it? People aren't going to tolerate being locked up in their homes indefinitely. The mental and physical health impact of a on/off isolation approach would be unthinkable.
RedO makes a good point. People can get over isolation. You can’t get over death.
It is kind of definitive, don’t you think?
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 am
by Millennial Snowflake
No, because it’s not as simple as that. Obviously.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:07 am
by Disoriented
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 am
No, because it’s not as simple as that. Obviously.
Obviously?
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:17 am
by Mistadobalina
If there's a spike in domestic violence, suicide attempts, obesity related complications, psychological issues etc, then it's not as simple as getting over something is it? Those are tangible outcomes from continuing with a lockdown for more than a pretty limited period of time.
Then there's also the issue of giving the state the power to place everyone under semi-house arrest indefinitely.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Economic hardship never killed anyone
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:39 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:17 am
If there's a spike in domestic violence, suicide attempts, obesity related complications, psychological issues etc, then it's not as simple as getting over something is it? Those are tangible outcomes from continuing with a lockdown for more than a pretty limited period of time.
Then there's also the issue of giving the state the power to place everyone under semi-house arrest indefinitely.
I'm saying they should have started this thing a week or two earlier. That's all. But they didn't cos of the economy.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:13 am
by slacker
What’s this gubbins I’m hearing about #clapforboris at 8 tonight? FFS, this country...
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:16 am
by BoniO
slacker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:13 am
What’s this gubbins I’m hearing about #clapforboris at 8 tonight? FFS, this country...
#crapforBoris maybe.... what a load of bollox. I think I'm washing my hair.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:18 am
by RedDwarf 1881
BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:16 am
slacker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:13 am
What’s this gubbins I’m hearing about #clapforboris at 8 tonight? FFS, this country...
#crapforBoris maybe.... what a load of bollox. I think I'm washing my hair.
Embarrassing
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:20 am
by BoniO
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:18 am
BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:16 am
slacker wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:13 am
What’s this gubbins I’m hearing about #clapforboris at 8 tonight? FFS, this country...
#crapforBoris maybe.... what a load of bollox. I think I'm washing my hair.
Embarrassing
I know, but I bet some muppets will be out there clapping.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:31 am
by BIGRON
I joined in the clapping for the NHS and will continue to do so , i will pass on the clap for Boris as I think that's going over the top , i wish him a full recovery though .
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:32 am
by BoniO
Hey Ron, not sure Boris will appreciate you passing on the clap!
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:01 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
The #ClapForBoris thing seems to have been started by a right wing troll account
Since then 99% of people disseminating it are people saying "I can't believe #ClapForBoris is trending" without a shred of irony or self awareness
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:02 pm
by BIGRON
BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:32 am
Hey Ron, not sure Boris will appreciate you passing on the clap!
You know me , i will share the clap with anyone
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:07 pm
by Mistadobalina
RedO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:39 am
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:17 am
If there's a spike in domestic violence, suicide attempts, obesity related complications, psychological issues etc, then it's not as simple as getting over something is it? Those are tangible outcomes from continuing with a lockdown for more than a pretty limited period of time.
Then there's also the issue of giving the state the power to place everyone under semi-house arrest indefinitely.
I'm saying they should have started this thing a week or two earlier. That's all. But they didn't cos of the economy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
NHS isn't reporting getting overwhelmed at the moment anyway. That's the real test of whether they judged the shutdown timing right.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:01 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Thank you for the link. You are suggesting boris and cummings are merely stupid, not malicious?
I don't think either of them are anything like stupid. They just have entirely different values to ordinary folk.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:16 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
RedO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:39 am
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:17 am
If there's a spike in domestic violence, suicide attempts, obesity related complications, psychological issues etc, then it's not as simple as getting over something is it? Those are tangible outcomes from continuing with a lockdown for more than a pretty limited period of time.
Then there's also the issue of giving the state the power to place everyone under semi-house arrest indefinitely.
I'm saying they should have started this thing a week or two earlier. That's all. But they didn't cos of the economy.
There's a view that a hard recession will end up killing more people in the long term though...
I think the government f*cked up by not implementing this sooner, 100% it was about saving some Tory mates and their business/investments. But I do think there's a finite time that people are willing to put their lives on hold.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:40 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
A recession will only kill people if you don't support those that need help.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:45 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Well yeah, but fat chance of that happening.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:10 pm
by Max B Gold
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:45 pm
Well yeah, but fat chance of that happening.
In that case sir. It will be revolution.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:05 pm
by Dunners
Nah, we'll just blame the poor and the immigrants again.
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:30 pm
by greyhound
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:44 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
For apologising or saying it?
Re: Boris in for Hospital Tests
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:45 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:05 pm
Nah, we'll just blame the poor and the immigrants again.
Could do with some video footage of lots of foreign looking people flouting the social distancing guidelines, that might help.
