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Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:17 pm All of this could have been avoided if RE had acted professionally by ignoring the fan completely and walking off the pitch down the tunnel.

One more reason why he shouldn't be the manager and this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:30 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:17 pm All of this could have been avoided if RE had acted professionally by ignoring the fan completely and walking off the pitch down the tunnel.

One more reason why he shouldn't be the manager and this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Cloughie used to stand & talk to fans before & after a game .

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UpminsterO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:40 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:30 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:17 pm All of this could have been avoided if RE had acted professionally by ignoring the fan completely and walking off the pitch down the tunnel.

One more reason why he shouldn't be the manager and this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Cloughie used to stand & talk to fans before & after a game .

Dont see the.big deal.

Unprofessional would be going over during the game .

Clough was eccentric but a proven winner and one of the greatest managers of all time - his record is unbeatable

He was also exceptionally intelligent and witty with a wonderful personality

Ross is like us an ordinary person trying his best under unusual circumstances

He be wise as I and others have said not to get involved with any fan - it will not achieve anything and devalues his managerial presence as he has just started in a very hard occupation where many fail - he really needs to act above any fan

spen666 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:51 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:30 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:17 pm All of this could have been avoided if RE had acted professionally by ignoring the fan completely and walking off the pitch down the tunnel.

One more reason why he shouldn't be the manager and this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Cloughie used to stand & talk to fans before & after a game .

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When not clipping them around the ear?

BIGRON wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:03 pm I wonder if the fan involved will be at the meet the manager meeting on Wednesday ? Could be fun and games if he is

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:33 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:23 pm

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:16 pm

That's right, but I was hardly aggressive let alone 'very aggressive'.Just shouted out "Embleton, that performance was a joke".
I wasn't then the one who marched 30/40 yards to remonstrate.

You and your goonies went suddenly quiet when RE did come over though
What an embarrassment
And I mean you lot not RE

Sounds typical lucky .

I have no qualms with calling someone out , but if
they then come to discuss stuff , have the front to back up what you are saying , instead of pretending your the innocent party.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:30 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:17 pm All of this could have been avoided if RE had acted professionally by ignoring the fan completely and walking off the pitch down the tunnel.

One more reason why he shouldn't be the manager and this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Cloughie used to stand & talk to fans before & after a game .

Dont see the.big deal.

Unprofessional would be going over during the game .

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:19 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:33 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:23 pm

You and your goonies went suddenly quiet when RE did come over though
What an embarrassment
And I mean you lot not RE

Sounds typical lucky .

I have no qualms with calling someone out , but if
they then come to discuss stuff , have the front to back up what you are saying , instead of pretending your the innocent party.

From my advantage point didn't seem to be an innocent or guilty party, they met, they talked, both sides thought they were right and 'other a plonker, no swearing, shook hands, walked away shaking their heads.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:30 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:30 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:17 pm All of this could have been avoided if RE had acted professionally by ignoring the fan completely and walking off the pitch down the tunnel.

One more reason why he shouldn't be the manager and this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Cloughie used to stand & talk to fans before & after a game .

Dont see the.big deal.

Unprofessional would be going over during the game .

Hardly a valid comparison. Didn't Cloughie punch a fan once.

OyinbO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:45 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:30 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:30 pm

Cloughie used to stand & talk to fans before & after a game .

Dont see the.big deal.

Unprofessional would be going over during the game .

Hardly a valid comparison. Didn't Cloughie punch a fan once.

The fans were invading the pitch during a game and had been warned before games not to do so. this particular fan ran right before Cloughie so Brian grab hold swung him round think he clipped his ear. Brian was applauded for his action at the time


When Embleton wins the League and the European Cup, he's welcome to come over and chin me whenever he wants.

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:09 pm

OyinbO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:45 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:30 pm

Hardly a valid comparison. Didn't Cloughie punch a fan once.

The fans were invading the pitch during a game and had been warned before games not to do so. this particular fan ran right before Cloughie so Brian grab hold swung him round think he clipped his ear. Brian was applauded for his action at the time


When Embleton wins the League and the European Cup, he's welcome to come over and chin me whenever he wants.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:29 pm What people have to realise is the total disrespect that anyone involved in the game has for supporters. They believe that as they hold all the coaching badges that they know it all, or play the game so that they know it all, or nowadays as well they report on the game so think that they know it all.
That is why they always refer to supporters as punters.

Problem is that anyone with coaching badges now are a load of sheep as they are all taught in the same way and they have no individuality or mind of their own.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:37 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:29 pm What people have to realise is the total disrespect that anyone involved in the game has for supporters. They believe that as they hold all the coaching badges that they know it all, or play the game so that they know it all, or nowadays as well they report on the game so think that they know it all.
That is why they always refer to supporters as punters.

Problem is that anyone with coaching badges now are a load of sheep as they are all taught in the same way and they have no individuality or mind of their own.

Understandable, I dont think many people would like to be told how to do their jobs by people less qualified.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:41 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:37 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:29 pm What people have to realise is the total disrespect that anyone involved in the game has for supporters. They believe that as they hold all the coaching badges that they know it all, or play the game so that they know it all, or nowadays as well they report on the game so think that they know it all.
That is why they always refer to supporters as punters.

Problem is that anyone with coaching badges now are a load of sheep as they are all taught in the same way and they have no individuality or mind of their own.

Understandable, I dont think many people would like to be told how to do their jobs by people less qualified.

You don't have to hold a piece of paper to know enough about football to question someone, especially if you have watched it for a good number of years.

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:44 pm Just watching football for a long period of time won't make you know as much about football as someone involved in the game, sorry

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:44 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:41 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:37 pm

Understandable, I dont think many people would like to be told how to do their jobs by people less qualified.

You don't have to hold a piece of paper to know enough about football to question someone, especially if you have watched it for a good number of years.

Just watching football for a long period of time won't make you know as much about football as someone involved in the game, sorry

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:50 pm

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:44 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:41 pm

You don't have to hold a piece of paper to know enough about football to question someone, especially if you have watched it for a good number of years.

Just watching football for a long period of time won't make you know as much about football as someone involved in the game, sorry

Cobblers. If you have watched and/or played football for a number of years you know enough about tactics and formations etc. to be able to hold a conversation with people involved in the game and question some things. They might have a bit of paper saying what they know but there are no 'rocket scientists' managing/coaching in football. That's why they all fail and get sacked at some point.

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:24 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:50 pm

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:44 pm

Just watching football for a long period of time won't make you know as much about football as someone involved in the game, sorry

Cobblers. If you have watched and/or played football for a number of years you know enough about tactics and formations etc. to be able to hold a conversation with people involved in the game and question some things. They might have a bit of paper saying what they know but there are no 'rocket scientists' managing/coaching in football. That's why they all fail and get sacked at some point.

That's not the same as what you initially said. If you've played at a decent level of course you can have a chat about tactics, formations etc, but you're deluded if you think the average fan knows as much as a professional manager. Merely watching for decades won't give you much understanding, nor will playing in a pub league or for your mate's 5-a-side team. Anyway, usually it's the angry fans who think they know it all and won't accept a different opinion.