Independent Leyton Orient Forum

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:35 pm Pauses - "Myles needs to learn how to become a footballer".

What. The. Actual. F U C K.

Some ex player says one full back can't defend to save his life, the club goes into meltdown, the radio people brown nose them and apologise.

The current DOF says another full back is not a footballer. And that's ok.

Rotten.

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:25 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:21 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:54 am

Good spot. Wouldn’t be surprised if ML had already tapped up Sam before the proper just to make sure he was agreeable.

I’m sure it goes on all the time but it’s worrying that A. He said it in an interview and B. No one thought to stop him in the interview or edit it out. I hope it isn’t as bad as it seems.

I've reported it to the FA. This sort of thing isn't on and the deal should be considered null and void as a result.

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:35 pm Pauses - "Myles needs to learn how to become a footballer".

What. The. Actual. F U C K.

Some ex player says one full back can't defend to save his life, the club goes into meltdown, the radio people brown nose them and apologise.

The current DOF says another full back is not a footballer. And that's ok.

Rotten.

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:10 am ML does himself no favours in that segment concerning Juddy. Most on here believe that SL gets favourable treatment, then to hear the dof say what he’s said shows clearly that Judd is disadvantaged in trying to win a place in the team fairly.

As Redo says, Dickinson gets slaughter for giving his opinion and her here’s the top football man in the club giving a similar opinion and nothing gets said.

There’s two levels in our club quite clearly and Judd needs to get the lings onside quickly if he’s ever to get back in the team cos it’s quite clear he’s not playing in a level field.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:09 am

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:10 am ML does himself no favours in that segment concerning Juddy. Most on here believe that SL gets favourable treatment, then to hear the dof say what he’s said shows clearly that Judd is disadvantaged in trying to win a place in the team fairly.

As Redo says, Dickinson gets slaughter for giving his opinion and her here’s the top football man in the club giving a similar opinion and nothing gets said.

There’s two levels in our club quite clearly and Judd needs to get the lings onside quickly if he’s ever to get back in the team cos it’s quite clear he’s not playing in a level field.

I thought the comparison between the reaction to Dickinson comments and ML comments was a good spot by RedO. If ever you need an example of an unlevel playing field there it is. And from the Boss himself.

Tip for Ling. Go talk to Travis and ask him to explain a positive and inclusive culture again. Then listen to these comments as an example of exclusion. If I were Juddy listening to that I would not feel part of the team, just a spare part with no chance of ever getting into the team. Demoralising.

RedO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:48 am Is anyone surprised that Myles isn't completely demoralised by the way he's been and is being treated?

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:35 pm Pauses - "Myles needs to learn how to become a footballer".

What. The. Actual. F U C K.

Some ex player says one full back can't defend to save his life, the club goes into meltdown, the radio people brown nose them and apologise.

The current DOF says another full back is not a footballer. And that's ok.

Rotten.

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:42 am
c. The non player side of this club as now operating has high in numbers consuming wages and operating costs on employees - for a small league two team it appears out of balance

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:42 am 1. The budget must be a problem
a - the quality of the applicants was lower this time compared to last time - ML words
b this club is run on spreadsheets and budgets - evidence - as abstracted from collection of interviews
c. The non player side of this club as now operating has high in numbers consuming wages and operating costs on employees - for a small league two team it appears out of balance

2. Yes - there is a non functional group in terms of performance and current results and integration/ acceptance of CF- irrespective of his reported failings it's just not how things generally go

Beradogs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:20 pm Surely being the manager is more money and a stepping stone. RE said he didn’t want it when others were being interviewed to save face. Of course he wants it and Ling knows this. Should he have it is a different question with the answer of no.

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:41 am One of the three coaches is actually a player as well (granted he has not yet played) so you have better value against him of course if he plays.

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:52 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:14 am

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:42 am 1. The budget must be a problem
a - the quality of the applicants was lower this time compared to last time - ML words
b this club is run on spreadsheets and budgets - evidence - as abstracted from collection of interviews
c. The non player side of this club as now operating has high in numbers consuming wages and operating costs on employees - for a small league two team it appears out of balance

2. Yes - there is a non functional group in terms of performance and current results and integration/ acceptance of CF- irrespective of his reported failings it's just not how things generally go

Don't see how any of that means the budget is a problem.

Staff were functional enough last season.

I think you should admit you don't know what the budget is.

Of course I do not know the budget or the allocation of expenditure and income
I am not their accountant or been given access to their accounts

When I say the word must above it really is part of a sentence seeking a question without a ?

Yes of course they were effective and functional last season

This year the results gave not matched the potential to date and the QA and other reporting has stated certain issues that if we're eradicated could result in the club functioning in a more effective way.