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Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:50 pm
by Byways1
eagwgw wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:00 pm No rush really.
We ain't gonna be promoted, or relegated. I'd rather take time.

Not much of a fan of Calderwood, there would be something similar to Ross that he is only in the job because of who he knows. If he had no connection to Ling, it would be quite uninspiring. His best days were a long time ago, and he took Cambridge from 22nd in December last year to 21st at the end of the season. Yes, he was dealt a bad hand, but equally you could argue that the same case is so here, so there isn't much evidence he could deliver improvements out of what he had to work with. With so many 2-year contract renewals I don't think there will be many changes in the summer.

The nagging feeling I get is that the priority is to protect the culture of the club. Important in some ways but I also think that potentially this could become a bit of a distraction in itself.

I do feel quite disappointed that there was no testimonial game for Justin, and this could have represented a time for the fans to say goodbye and that represents a cut-off, we have to move on.

He should have some permanent recognition at the club for sure, but I see stuff like putting pictures of him in the dressing room before games as a little unhelpful for a new man.
Strong rumour that Cambridge have been approached.
He ticks most of the boxes and the most important one is his a mate of Lings.
If we are going to have a DOF then they have to get on so this appointment would make sense.
No one will give a toss if he starts off well and we can see some improvement, if it goes the other way then that’s when the trouble will start.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:23 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Were either Davis or Edinburgh mates with Ling?

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:27 pm
by Byways1
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:23 pm Were either Davis or Edinburgh mates with Ling?
Edinburgh and Ling went back years at Southend.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:30 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Byways1 wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:27 pm
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:23 pm Were either Davis or Edinburgh mates with Ling?
Edinburgh and Ling went back years at Southend.
Knowing someone years ago is different to being mates.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:46 pm
by Byways1
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:30 pm
Byways1 wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:27 pm
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:23 pm Were either Davis or Edinburgh mates with Ling?
Edinburgh and Ling went back years at Southend.
Knowing someone years ago is different to being mates.
Alright smart arse.They had a working relationship.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:17 pm
by BiggsyMalone
So, over a week after Ross steps down. Ling has decided to approach Cambridge (if true). It’s good to know he’s been taking his role as DoF really seriously since appointing an “interim” coach. I don’t know which Ling is worse at their job

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:23 pm
by PedrOAllenO
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:17 pm So, over a week after Ross steps down. Ling has decided to approach Cambridge (if true). It’s good to know he’s been taking his role as DoF really seriously since appointing an “interim” coach. I don’t know which Ling is worse at their job
This is the same Ling that brought Bonne to the club. I can think of worse people to be picking a manager than the man who brought Justin Edinburgh to E10.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:33 pm
by BiggsyMalone
PedrOAllenO wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:23 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:17 pm So, over a week after Ross steps down. Ling has decided to approach Cambridge (if true). It’s good to know he’s been taking his role as DoF really seriously since appointing an “interim” coach. I don’t know which Ling is worse at their job
This is the same Ling that brought Bonne to the club. I can think of worse people to be picking a manager than the man who brought Justin Edinburgh to E10.
For every Bonne and Edinburgh, there's an Alabi and Davis. He signed his sh*t son too. Picking Bonne and Edinburgh doesn't take away from the fact he's seemingly waited over a week to approach one of his mates.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:02 pm
by Byways1
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:33 pm
PedrOAllenO wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:23 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:17 pm So, over a week after Ross steps down. Ling has decided to approach Cambridge (if true). It’s good to know he’s been taking his role as DoF really seriously since appointing an “interim” coach. I don’t know which Ling is worse at their job
This is the same Ling that brought Bonne to the club. I can think of worse people to be picking a manager than the man who brought Justin Edinburgh to E10.
For every Bonne and Edinburgh, there's an Alabi and Davis. He signed his sh*t son too. Picking Bonne and Edinburgh doesn't take away from the fact he's seemingly waited over a week to approach one of his mates.
Also if this is true it has cost the club unnecessary compensation.
Calderwood only signed a new 2 year contract on the 21st September.
I would imagine we will have to pay a years salary to get him out of that.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:05 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Byways1 wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:46 pm
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:30 pm
Byways1 wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:27 pm

Edinburgh and Ling went back years at Southend.
Knowing someone years ago is different to being mates.
Alright smart arse.They had a working relationship.
It's far from being a smartarse. It's an important distinction. Someone being mates implies the job is being given because of friendship. Whereas there are tonnes of working relationships in a player or manager's career.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:46 am
by point nine one eight
Disoriented wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:57 pm
redintheface wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:55 pm Cambridge Utd coach Colin Calderwood has suddenly appeared in the betting @ 6/1.
This is getting worse.
Hi you gave good reasons for your choice re parkinson, was wondering why your not keen on Calderwood

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:21 am
by eagwgw
The flip side is, why are people so keen?

It seems that a couple of people had a downer on Sol Campbell, because he 'only' got a win percentage of 28% at Macclesfield.

But then again, since taking over at Cambridge, Calderwood has got a win percentage of 29%, just a fraction bigger, yet his budget would have been far bigger than the one at Macclesfield.

In favour of Calderwood, he has got bags more experience than Campbell as manager in the League.... but all that experience was about 10 years ago now.

I am only really a fan of the personal connection thing if it gets us a player or manager who we wouldn't be able to get otherwise, I don't think that is the case here.

That is not to say I would not back Calderwood or Sol if they did get the job. I just think that if the list of criteria for the job as we did when we appointed Justin, neither of them would be at the top of it.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:05 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Campbell took over a team about to be relegated To the NL and kept them up. It’s not like he took over at a good team and did terribly.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:09 pm
by spen666
Isn't all of this a pointless debate?

We as fans have no say over who is manager, so there is little point in getting into heated arguments over this topic. You have your preferences, he has his, but it doesn't matter whether you force, by your debating skills, others to agree with you, the only people with a say are the officials at Orient

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:15 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Byways1 wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:43 pm
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:33 pm Yep, waiting a little longer and getting the best candidate is clearly the most sensible plan.
One born every minute.
Waiting nearly 4 months now.
There's far more than one born every minute. Around 250 according to a recent source.

We haven't been waiting four months now given Embleton was clearly being given a chance to make the job permanent. And even with a shortlist of possible options availability changes (both in terms of candidates unavailable or now available).

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:53 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
For example, give it another week and Nathan Jones should be available.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:00 pm
by Norman_S_ Fletcher
When is the announcement due? Any ideas? This bloody rumour mill is going to implode soon.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:04 pm
by faith1234
Not being bad but the hole jobi as a maybe shortlist for the managers job we need a experince manager jobi not good enought. If jobi gets the job then its a joke the only way jobi will het the job is to save the club money a cheap version

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:36 pm
by Lovejoy

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:00 pm
by Disoriented
spen666 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:09 pm Isn't all of this a pointless debate?

We as fans have no say over who is manager, so there is little point in getting into heated arguments over this topic. You have your preferences, he has his, but it doesn't matter whether you force, by your debating skills, others to agree with you, the only people with a say are the officials at Orient
Not true. It is clear they read this board and have nothing but respect for the learned opinions which appear.

Apart from yours obviously.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:08 pm
by Red_Army
A good source has told me that Ian Hendon may be in the running for the job. He left his role at Ebbsfleet today. He says that he's not 100% Hendon leaving and the vacancy are linked, but that he wouldn't be surprised.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:14 pm
by Eat The Rich
Red_Army wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:08 pm A good source has told me that Ian Hendon may be in the running for the job. He left his role at Ebbsfleet today. He says that he's not 100% Hendon leaving and the vacancy are linked, but that he wouldn't be surprised.
Jesus wept.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:20 pm
by Red_Army
Eat The Rich wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:14 pm
Red_Army wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:08 pm A good source has told me that Ian Hendon may be in the running for the job. He left his role at Ebbsfleet today. He says that he's not 100% Hendon leaving and the vacancy are linked, but that he wouldn't be surprised.
Jesus wept.
I sincerely hope he's wrong.

Re: New manager shortlist.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:22 pm
by spen666
Steve Bruce is the man for the job

Ian Hendon coming back?

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:24 pm
by Byways1
I believe he has worked with Ross at Spurs.
Obviously knows a lot of the back room staff.
An unbelievably poor choice, but cheap.