Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:42 pm

P&O wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:39 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:31 pm

Gay people have a sense of humour.
You obviously don’t.

Yeah, and they don’t generally find homophobic old dinosaurs who try to excuse their bigotry by calling people “snowflakes” that funny.

Really good job that you can’t be bothered to go to the game tomorrow. A great club like Orient doesn’t need bigots through the turnstiles.

You don’t know me so don’t call me a bigot just because you have a sense on humour bypass.

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:00 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:34 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:08 pm You can’t complain about homophobia unless you’re an actual bender yourself, so it seems.

What a tool.

Calling them benders
How ironic.

Them ?

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:05 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:00 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:34 pm

Calling them benders
How ironic.

Them ?

Who are you calling “benders” then.

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:07 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:05 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:00 pm

Them ?

Who are you calling “benders” then.

The Gays.

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:44 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:33 pm Bigotry in any form is no laughing matter.

Totally agree.
Nor is having a sense of humour bypass.

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:09 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:07 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:05 pm

Who are you calling “benders” then.

The Gays.

Really?

P&O wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:20 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:08 pm You can’t complain about homophobia unless you’re an actual bender yourself, so it seems.

What a tool.

My thoughts about “being offended on someone’s behalf”

My boss is gay.

A number of my (excellent) colleagues are gay.

Two good friends from my childhood have since come out as gay.

I partied and hung out with homosexuals and lesbians on a weekly basis at college.

At uni, my friend circle included a number of gays and lesbians


The most loyal, closest and important friend of my missus (and subsequently a good friend of mine) is gay.

So I’ve spent a lot of my life with gays. Talk to them all the time. In serious, sober moments. In whimsical drunk moments. In crises. And in everything in between.

And do you know the thing which gay guys and girls despair at the most?

Funnily enough it’s not the homophobia directed at them. Sadly, they come to expect it. What really gets them down is when their straight friends get dismissed as “snowflakes”. Or as “virtue signalling”.

When their straight friends stick up for them and are immediately shot down as if they are only defending them through some sort of defect. As if only somebody with something wrong with them or something to prove would ever stick up for gays whilst not being gay themselves.

When some dinosaur brushes over homophobia and accuses the straight guy who calls it out as “getting offended on somebody else’s behalf”, they feel even more powerless.

Thankfully this attitude is dying out. But it’s taking a painfully long time.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:30 am

P&O wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:20 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:08 pm You can’t complain about homophobia unless you’re an actual bender yourself, so it seems.

What a tool.

My thoughts about “being offended on someone’s behalf”

My boss is gay.

A number of my (excellent) colleagues are gay.

Two good friends from my childhood have since come out as gay.

I partied and hung out with homosexuals and lesbians on a weekly basis at college.

At uni, my friend circle included a number of gays and lesbians


The most loyal, closest and important friend of my missus (and subsequently a good friend of mine) is gay.

So I’ve spent a lot of my life with gays. Talk to them all the time. In serious, sober moments. In whimsical drunk moments. In crises. And in everything in between.

And do you know the thing which gay guys and girls despair at the most?

Funnily enough it’s not the homophobia directed at them. Sadly, they come to expect it. What really gets them down is when their straight friends get dismissed as “snowflakes”. Or as “virtue signalling”.

When their straight friends stick up for them and are immediately shot down as if they are only defending them through some sort of defect. As if only somebody with something wrong with them or something to prove would ever stick up for gays whilst not being gay themselves.

When some dinosaur brushes over homophobia and accuses the straight guy who calls it out as “getting offended on somebody else’s behalf”, they feel even more powerless.

Thankfully this attitude is dying out. But it’s taking a painfully long time.

Don’t think I have ever met a gay person either. Tell me more. What are they like? Actually, don’t bother. I will print this off and spend some time reading it over the next few days.

P&O wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:20 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:08 pm You can’t complain about homophobia unless you’re an actual bender yourself, so it seems.

What a tool.

My thoughts about “being offended on someone’s behalf”

My boss is gay.

A number of my (excellent) colleagues are gay.

Two good friends from my childhood have since come out as gay.

I partied and hung out with homosexuals and lesbians on a weekly basis at college.

At uni, my friend circle included a number of gays and lesbians


The most loyal, closest and important friend of my missus (and subsequently a good friend of mine) is gay.

So I’ve spent a lot of my life with gays. Talk to them all the time. In serious, sober moments. In whimsical drunk moments. In crises. And in everything in between.

And do you know the thing which gay guys and girls despair at the most?

Funnily enough it’s not the homophobia directed at them. Sadly, they come to expect it. What really gets them down is when their straight friends get dismissed as “snowflakes”. Or as “virtue signalling”.

When their straight friends stick up for them and are immediately shot down as if they are only defending them through some sort of defect. As if only somebody with something wrong with them or something to prove would ever stick up for gays whilst not being gay themselves.

When some dinosaur brushes over homophobia and accuses the straight guy who calls it out as “getting offended on somebody else’s behalf”, they feel even more powerless.

Thankfully this attitude is dying out. But it’s taking a painfully long time.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:02 am

P&O wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:20 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:08 pm You can’t complain about homophobia unless you’re an actual bender yourself, so it seems.

What a tool.

My thoughts about “being offended on someone’s behalf”

My boss is gay.

A number of my (excellent) colleagues are gay.

Two good friends from my childhood have since come out as gay.

I partied and hung out with homosexuals and lesbians on a weekly basis at college.

At uni, my friend circle included a number of gays and lesbians


The most loyal, closest and important friend of my missus (and subsequently a good friend of mine) is gay.

So I’ve spent a lot of my life with gays. Talk to them all the time. In serious, sober moments. In whimsical drunk moments. In crises. And in everything in between.

And do you know the thing which gay guys and girls despair at the most?

Funnily enough it’s not the homophobia directed at them. Sadly, they come to expect it. What really gets them down is when their straight friends get dismissed as “snowflakes”. Or as “virtue signalling”.

When their straight friends stick up for them and are immediately shot down as if they are only defending them through some sort of defect. As if only somebody with something wrong with them or something to prove would ever stick up for gays whilst not being gay themselves.

When some dinosaur brushes over homophobia and accuses the straight guy who calls it out as “getting offended on somebody else’s behalf”, they feel even more powerless.

Thankfully this attitude is dying out. But it’s taking a painfully long time.

What a life you have led. When is the autobiography coming out?

P&O wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:26 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:02 am

P&O wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:20 pm

My thoughts about “being offended on someone’s behalf”

My boss is gay.

A number of my (excellent) colleagues are gay.

Two good friends from my childhood have since come out as gay.

I partied and hung out with homosexuals and lesbians on a weekly basis at college.

At uni, my friend circle included a number of gays and lesbians


The most loyal, closest and important friend of my missus (and subsequently a good friend of mine) is gay.

So I’ve spent a lot of my life with gays. Talk to them all the time. In serious, sober moments. In whimsical drunk moments. In crises. And in everything in between.

And do you know the thing which gay guys and girls despair at the most?

Funnily enough it’s not the homophobia directed at them. Sadly, they come to expect it. What really gets them down is when their straight friends get dismissed as “snowflakes”. Or as “virtue signalling”.

When their straight friends stick up for them and are immediately shot down as if they are only defending them through some sort of defect. As if only somebody with something wrong with them or something to prove would ever stick up for gays whilst not being gay themselves.

When some dinosaur brushes over homophobia and accuses the straight guy who calls it out as “getting offended on somebody else’s behalf”, they feel even more powerless.

Thankfully this attitude is dying out. But it’s taking a painfully long time.

What a life you have led. When is the autobiography coming out?

I’m still young! Maybe I’ll release it in instalments.