Independent Leyton Orient Forum

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:18 am

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:35 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:33 pm

Protest for something worthwhile
Not a mickey mouse competition that no one really gives a f*ck about.

Retaining the integrity of the football pyramid is pretty worthwhile, would you not agree?

Then why protest at the football pyramid trying to help all 92 clubs. Surely you are contradicting yourself here.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:52 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:18 am

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:35 pm

Retaining the integrity of the football pyramid is pretty worthwhile, would you not agree?

Then why protest at the football pyramid trying to help all 92 clubs. Surely you are contradicting yourself here.

Please explain how, apart from a bung, this is helping smaller clubs?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:33 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:52 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:18 am

Then why protest at the football pyramid trying to help all 92 clubs. Surely you are contradicting yourself here.

Please explain how, apart from a bung, this is helping smaller clubs?

I didnt say it helped smaller clubs
I said it helped the efl & the fa which will
be to the benefit of all 92 clubs .

The 2 have been so far apart , that they cant keep
the record final scorers in 1 of thems competition
Or alive in the others .

We need 1 pyramid not 2.
Protesting against a comp run by both , hopefully means they emalgamate at some future point & we end up with fewer clubs like Bury Bolton coventry blackpool leyton orient etc dying or nearly dying.

f*** the actual competition
Concentrate on more Ways they can work together, must be better than 2 seperate ships sailing different routes .

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:21 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:33 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:52 am

Please explain how, apart from a bung, this is helping smaller clubs?

I didnt say it helped smaller clubs
I said it helped the efl & the fa which will
be to the benefit of all 92 clubs .

The 2 have been so far apart , that they cant keep
the record final scorers in 1 of thems competition
Or alive in the others .

We need 1 pyramid not 2.
Protesting against a comp run by both , hopefully means they emalgamate at some future point & we end up with fewer clubs like Bury Bolton coventry blackpool leyton orient etc dying or nearly dying.

f*** the actual competition
Concentrate on more Ways they can work together, must be better than 2 seperate ships sailing different routes .

I mean okay but I don't think your argument really joins up.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:33 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:21 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:33 pm

I didnt say it helped smaller clubs
I said it helped the efl & the fa which will
be to the benefit of all 92 clubs .

The 2 have been so far apart , that they cant keep
the record final scorers in 1 of thems competition
Or alive in the others .

We need 1 pyramid not 2.
Protesting against a comp run by both , hopefully means they emalgamate at some future point & we end up with fewer clubs like Bury Bolton coventry blackpool leyton orient etc dying or nearly dying.

f*** the actual competition
Concentrate on more Ways they can work together, must be better than 2 seperate ships sailing different routes .

I mean okay but I don't think your argument really joins up.

Where as i dont see a protest having any weight.

Im not arguing for the sake of it honestly.
I value a reasoned discussion like you have given

I see the points you make & to a degree i can understand why people would see that
But long term & bigger picture , something drastic needs to change in football

2 in charge is not working .

Anyway
Up the O's & on to saturday & Swindon

Red_Army wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:44 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:33 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:21 pm

I mean okay but I don't think your argument really joins up.

Where as i dont see a protest having any weight.

Im not arguing for the sake of it honestly.
I value a reasoned discussion like you have given

I see the points you make & to a degree i can understand why people would see that
But long term & bigger picture , something drastic needs to change in football

2 in charge is not working .

Anyway
Up the O's & on to saturday & Swindon

Don't get me wrong I believe something drastic needs to change too, but that doesn't include introducing B-teams into professional football competitions.

Charlesjal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:26 pm And since were keeping score you might want to also notice my predictions are averaging about 95 correct. Yup Ive missed a couple, which are about the same 5 you managed to get right

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:35 pm

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:28 pm I'm glad I went, decided not to let the boycott lobby win, Surprised at our performance. Took Ogie 10-15 minutes to get up to scratch, from then on no problem, felt sorry for Harold his strike partner Alibi was no where near him when required (Hercules his horse would have done better,) Alibi couldn't score in a brothel, missed three goals including one on one with keeper empty goal hit post. Marsh ok did nothing wrong. Southend were worse than crap, however we were the better team, Happe and Gorman scored, Southend even managed to get a player sent off. In this competition, good grief.

Unnecessary dig at those who chose not to attend.

We're determined not to let the powerful Premier League clubs win.

If you went, fine that's your call, but that's doesn't give you the right to have a pop at us for our decision.

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:07 am

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:35 pm

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:28 pm I'm glad I went, decided not to let the boycott lobby win, Surprised at our performance. Took Ogie 10-15 minutes to get up to scratch, from then on no problem, felt sorry for Harold his strike partner Alibi was no where near him when required (Hercules his horse would have done better,) Alibi couldn't score in a brothel, missed three goals including one on one with keeper empty goal hit post. Marsh ok did nothing wrong. Southend were worse than crap, however we were the better team, Happe and Gorman scored, Southend even managed to get a player sent off. In this competition, good grief.

Unnecessary dig at those who chose not to attend.

We're determined not to let the powerful Premier League clubs win.

If you went, fine that's your call, but that's doesn't give you the right to have a pop at us for our decision.

Wasn't a dig at anybody, least of all YOU, silly child, just said we decided to go eventually, rest of message was about the match with no mention of people who chose not to go. If I want to have a pop at you in the future I'll let you know so you can polish up on your feigned annoyances. No body has the right not to be annoyed.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:20 am

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:07 am

Red_Army wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:35 pm

Unnecessary dig at those who chose not to attend.

We're determined not to let the powerful Premier League clubs win.

If you went, fine that's your call, but that's doesn't give you the right to have a pop at us for our decision.

Wasn't a dig at anybody, least of all YOU, silly child, just said we decided to go eventually, rest of message was about the match with no mention of people who chose not to go. If I want to have a pop at you in the future I'll let you know so you can polish up on your feigned annoyances. No body has the right not to be annoyed.

"decided not to let the boycott lobby win". What's that supposed to mean then?

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:25 am

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:20 am

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:07 am

Wasn't a dig at anybody, least of all YOU, silly child, just said we decided to go eventually, rest of message was about the match with no mention of people who chose not to go. If I want to have a pop at you in the future I'll let you know so you can polish up on your feigned annoyances. No body has the right not to be annoyed.

"decided not to let the boycott lobby win". What's that supposed to mean then?

Exactly what it says on the tin. end of conversation.