Independent Leyton Orient Forum

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:01 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:50 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:38 pm

That's true. With a DOF and scouts a guy with zero experience is the best we can come up with. OK, he may be great, I fecking hope so, but how the hell can anyone tell when he has never been tested. Big gamble. Fingers crossed stuff. Hope it works because we need a strong tackling ball winner in CM who can introduce that little bit of creativity we lack. who will he replace? Clay, Wright or Brophy.

Who knows, maybe he was? Maybe he was the best option all things considered. In any case, if you don't think he will be a good signing, we may as well give up given your extensive list of successful predictions.

I hope he turns out to be an excellent signing, of course I do. As for my predictions, I refer the honourable gentleman to last seasons predictions league where for most of the time I was top, or second.

I couldn't care less about you guessing the score each week. I was referring to your support for Beelzebub and when you embarrassingly backed us to miss out on promotion last season.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:20 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:18 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:15 pm
Or two shorties, Billy Bremner and Bobby Collins of the 1960s era Leeds Utd side, both top midfield players and both tough cookies !!

But not kids.

Of course there were once. they weren't born old.

Some people are Prez.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:24 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:20 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:18 pm

But not kids.

Of course there were once. they weren't born old.

Some people are Prez.

Forty-Niner wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:10 pm At 5'3 he will be the shortest player in the EFL . As for the claim on the LOFC website that he can also play at centre back - let's hope that won't happen. I'm going to cling to the comparison to Maradona.

Plenty of examples of small tough tacking midfielders - Phil Holder of Spurs 5ft 4ins but had an excellent career. Also one of the hardest players I’ve ever seen - Bobby Kellard aka “ the pocket battleship” a real enforcer.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:22 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:01 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:50 pm

Who knows, maybe he was? Maybe he was the best option all things considered. In any case, if you don't think he will be a good signing, we may as well give up given your extensive list of successful predictions.

I hope he turns out to be an excellent signing, of course I do. As for my predictions, I refer the honourable gentleman to last seasons predictions league where for most of the time I was top, or second.

I couldn't care less about you guessing the score each week. I was referring to your support for Beelzebub and when you embarrassingly backed us to miss out on promotion last season.

Tedious. I shot down in flames you predictions point so you dig up this. How's this for a prediction. After a few weeks of FB I highlighted the type of person FB was and gave him 3 years before he went, if we had no success. 3 years is what we got. And my support as you put it was generally limited to acknowledging the amount of money he was investing. Which he did.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:19 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:15 pm

Forty-Niner wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:10 pm At 5'3 he will be the shortest player in the EFL . As for the claim on the LOFC website that he can also play at centre back - let's hope that won't happen. I'm going to cling to the comparison to Maradona.

Or two shorties, Billy Bremner and Bobby Collins of the 1960s era Leeds Utd side, both top midfield players and both tough cookies !!

Can also play right back I believe. If he is good enough he is tall enough. Don't see the issue having one small terrier like player in the side. Bremner a case in point, what a player.

@dOh Nut
Read up about Bobby Collins, cannot recall him playing but although only 5'3'' from all accounts, Revie rated Collins as his best ever signing, skillful but as hard as nails and had a real winning attitude. Even Jackie Charlton kept well out of his way in their training matches.
Bobby Collins: Footballer whose fearsome passion for the game helped Don Revie transform the fortunes of Leeds United.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/obit ... 59811.html

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:38 pm

O my gawd wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:27 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:19 pm

So he is the only ball winning defensive midfielder available?

Stupid comment.

No more stupid than the thousands you have posted.
No one has really suggested much else in this area apart from a 32 year old trouble maker who' s been made to train with Shrewbury's youth team.
Give the lad a chance he might be the answer.

That's true. With a DOF and scouts a guy with zero experience is the best we can come up with. OK, he may be great, I fecking hope so, but how the hell can anyone tell when he has never been tested. Big gamble. Fingers crossed stuff. Hope it works because we need a strong tackling ball winner in CM who can introduce that little bit of creativity we lack. who will he replace? Clay, Wright or Brophy.

Well according to COYO's , George Marsh was given another contract by Spurs only eight weeks ago so I've no doubt he's a good player. I suppose he's come to us to get tested and to get some first team experience . We're struggling for goals at the moment so please God George can hit the ground running. My guess is he'll come on Tuesday night as a second half substitute for Clay.

redintheface wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:28 pm

Forty-Niner wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:10 pm At 5'3 he will be the shortest player in the EFL . As for the claim on the LOFC website that he can also play at centre back - let's hope that won't happen. I'm going to cling to the comparison to Maradona.

Plenty of examples of small tough tacking midfielders - Phil Holder of Spurs 5ft 4ins but had an excellent career. Also one of the hardest players I’ve ever seen - Bobby Kellard aka “ the pocket battleship” a real enforcer.

Booby Kellard, small but good and hard midfielder. I read the following on a ''Pompey Pocket Rocket Eleven'' website about small players who did the business for them. http://www.pompeyelevens.com/elevens/po ... ket-eleven
'' Bobby Kellard..... As previously reported on this site, hard nut Kellard (pictured above) possessed a pair of thighs that resembled a couple of hairy Giant Redwoods. The fulsomeness of his femurs was exacerbated by his diminutive 5' 5" stature, which was more akin to a bonsai.''
Good cartoon of Kellard shown !! Also our own Terry Brisley gets a mention !

Terry Brisley...... Another 5’ 6”er, Brisley was an energetic midfielder with the happy knack of getting to the back stick at the right time to notch a goal. It was a trick ‘Far Post’ performed 45 times in 206 appearances in Pompey blue. Not bad for a little ‘un.

I don’t believe he is 5ft3. How could someone that hight play centr half. You may as well put him in goal.
Anyway spurs have an excellent youth set up and they would not give him a contract unless he was decent.
I am on board with this, and just hope we actually get to see him play, not just sitting on the bench.

It’s a great opportunity for the lad and I wish him well but he he gets game time rather than being stuck on the bench.
I find it hard to believe that he could play at CB if he’s just 5’3”, but whatever, if Spurs have given him Two extra years then he must be a decent prospect.
It’s also the sort of signing that we wouldn’t have got as a NL team so another bonus for getting back into the league.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:30 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:22 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:01 pm

I hope he turns out to be an excellent signing, of course I do. As for my predictions, I refer the honourable gentleman to last seasons predictions league where for most of the time I was top, or second.

I couldn't care less about you guessing the score each week. I was referring to your support for Beelzebub and when you embarrassingly backed us to miss out on promotion last season.

Tedious. I shot down in flames you predictions point so you dig up this. How's this for a prediction. After a few weeks of FB I highlighted the type of person FB was and gave him 3 years before he went, if we had no success. 3 years is what we got. And my support as you put it was generally limited to acknowledging the amount of money he was investing. Which he did.

But you did support him? So you got thag wrong? And you got it wrong when you started crying about us wasting an opportunity to get promoted.

I'd be embarrassed to post the nonsense you do on this board. Nobody takes you seriously.

Firstly if Tottenham have just given him a new professional contract you can be sure he is a decent footballer with many good atributes. The times i have seen George playing for Spurs he has played mainly on the right hand side of midfield/defence. I expect him to make his debut tomorrow. Where will he play? Team will use same formation with Marsh in for Sam Ling. Lastly give the lad a chance, how would you all feel if you started a new job and there was negativety towards you before you walk through the door. Good luck George.

How tall is Ross? Cos George is at least an inch smaller. Not particularly bothered about his size look at Kantè at Chelsea. He is the type of player we need if it means our more attacking players can now get up the pitch and effect the game more

Good luck George. I’d play him instead of Clay and go 442

AckneyAwks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:37 pm Firstly if Tottenham have just given him a new professional contract you can be sure he is a decent footballer with many good atributes. The times i have seen George playing for Spurs he has played mainly on the right hand side of midfield/defence. I expect him to make his debut tomorrow. Where will he play? Team will use same formation with Marsh in for Sam Ling. Lastly give the lad a chance, how would you all feel if you started a new job and there was negativety towards you before you walk through the door. Good luck George.

Interesting shout.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:32 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:30 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:22 pm

I couldn't care less about you guessing the score each week. I was referring to your support for Beelzebub and when you embarrassingly backed us to miss out on promotion last season.

Tedious. I shot down in flames you predictions point so you dig up this. How's this for a prediction. After a few weeks of FB I highlighted the type of person FB was and gave him 3 years before he went, if we had no success. 3 years is what we got. And my support as you put it was generally limited to acknowledging the amount of money he was investing. Which he did.

But you did support him? So you got thag wrong? And you got it wrong when you started crying about us wasting an opportunity to get promoted.

I'd be embarrassed to post the nonsense you do on this board. Nobody takes you seriously.

Tedious Bore. Time to move forward. For the record I'm the first to admit I get things wrong. No big deal. You clearly feel you never do based on your posts. How wonderful you must be never to get anything wrong. Wow. Now stop being a childish idiot.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:48 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:32 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:30 pm

Tedious. I shot down in flames you predictions point so you dig up this. How's this for a prediction. After a few weeks of FB I highlighted the type of person FB was and gave him 3 years before he went, if we had no success. 3 years is what we got. And my support as you put it was generally limited to acknowledging the amount of money he was investing. Which he did.

But you did support him? So you got thag wrong? And you got it wrong when you started crying about us wasting an opportunity to get promoted.

I'd be embarrassed to post the nonsense you do on this board. Nobody takes you seriously.

Tedious Bore. Time to move forward. For the record I'm the first to admit I get things wrong. No big deal. You clearly feel you never do based on your posts. How wonderful you must be never to get anything wrong. Wow. Now stop being a childish idiot.

I've got many things wrong trust me, but at least I can say I was never an apologist for the man who nearly killed my football club.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:21 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:48 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:32 pm

But you did support him? So you got thag wrong? And you got it wrong when you started crying about us wasting an opportunity to get promoted.

I'd be embarrassed to post the nonsense you do on this board. Nobody takes you seriously.

Tedious Bore. Time to move forward. For the record I'm the first to admit I get things wrong. No big deal. You clearly feel you never do based on your posts. How wonderful you must be never to get anything wrong. Wow. Now stop being a childish idiot.

I've got many things wrong trust me, but at least I can say I was never an apologist for the man who nearly killed my football club.

But you completely failed to understand what many of my comments really were. another thing you got wrong. Lets not relive all this stuff. Really is time to move on.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:29 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:21 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:48 pm

Tedious Bore. Time to move forward. For the record I'm the first to admit I get things wrong. No big deal. You clearly feel you never do based on your posts. How wonderful you must be never to get anything wrong. Wow. Now stop being a childish idiot.

I've got many things wrong trust me, but at least I can say I was never an apologist for the man who nearly killed my football club.

But you completely failed to understand what many of my comments really were. another thing you got wrong. Lets not relive all this stuff. Really is time to move on.

I don't think anyone ever will.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:52 pm First off, give the lad a chance before we make too many assumptions. Spurs are a high class Premier League team and they must rate George highly as they gave him a 2 year extension to his contract in June 2019.
As to being only 5'3'' tall, well there have been quite a few great players who have been tough ball winning midfield players despite being on the small side. For a start, here are three international who played for the tough tackling Leeds team of the 1960s, Bobby Collins 5'3'' ( Scotland ) Billy Bremner 5'5'' ( Scotland ) and Johnny Giles 5'7'' ( Republic of Ireland ) All three were great midfield players for Club and Country.
Another tough little chap who was a ''HANDFUL'' on the pitch ( especially in the penalty box ! ) was.........Diego Maradona !!

We need a seasoned pro, not a vestal virgin.

So then Wright & Clay isnt enough experience. What do you want, the team to look like the cast of Dad' s Army?
Stupid boy Pike

O my gawd wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:42 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:52 pm First off, give the lad a chance before we make too many assumptions. Spurs are a high class Premier League team and they must rate George highly as they gave him a 2 year extension to his contract in June 2019.
As to being only 5'3'' tall, well there have been quite a few great players who have been tough ball winning midfield players despite being on the small side. For a start, here are three international who played for the tough tackling Leeds team of the 1960s, Bobby Collins 5'3'' ( Scotland ) Billy Bremner 5'5'' ( Scotland ) and Johnny Giles 5'7'' ( Republic of Ireland ) All three were great midfield players for Club and Country.
Another tough little chap who was a ''HANDFUL'' on the pitch ( especially in the penalty box ! ) was.........Diego Maradona !!

We need a seasoned pro, not a vestal virgin.

So then Wright & Clay isnt enough experience. What do you want, the team to look like the cast of Dad' s Army?
Stupid boy Pike

Nah, Last of the Summer Wine people. We've got Batty in Midfield, Nora Batty that is not David.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:49 pm

O my gawd wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:42 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:54 pm

We need a seasoned pro, not a vestal virgin.

So then Wright & Clay isnt enough experience. What do you want, the team to look like the cast of Dad' s Army?
Stupid boy Pike

Nah, Last of the Summer Wine people. We've got Batty in Midfield, Nora Batty that is not David.

Nah, Batty is the previous respondent to this discussion.

Who remembers the diminutive Steve Spriggs who had a distinguished 12 year career at our level for Cambridge United? He holds the record for the most appearances for Cambridge.

Forty-Niner wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:12 pm Who remembers the diminutive Steve Spriggs who had a distinguished 12 year career at our level for Cambridge United? He holds the record for the most appearances for Cambridge.

No.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:40 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:38 pm

O my gawd wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:27 pm

No more stupid than the thousands you have posted.
No one has really suggested much else in this area apart from a 32 year old trouble maker who' s been made to train with Shrewbury's youth team.
Give the lad a chance he might be the answer.

That's true. With a DOF and scouts a guy with zero experience is the best we can come up with. OK, he may be great, I fecking hope so, but how the hell can anyone tell when he has never been tested. Big gamble. Fingers crossed stuff. Hope it works because we need a strong tackling ball winner in CM who can introduce that little bit of creativity we lack. who will he replace? Clay, Wright or Brophy.

Well according to COYO's , George Marsh was given another contract by Spurs only eight weeks ago so I've no doubt he's a good player. I suppose he's come to us to get tested and to get some first team experience . We're struggling for goals at the moment so please God George can hit the ground running. My guess is he'll come on Tuesday night as a second half substitute for Clay.

About 10 mins from the end

Meh