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Agreed but , how about not wasting billions on the Ukraine. If we are that desperate for money , why are we borrowing whilst throwing money away on senseless wars .Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:12 am Shame they didn’t just close the tax loopholes on the trillionaire bankers then we wouldn’t have to raise NI contributions at all
Well my question was aimed at Dohnut, who hasn’t responded yet, but why will “most suffer”? Raising min wage is going to help a lot of people, no?George M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:06 amMost will suffer as a result of this budget. The only group that won’t will be civil servants as is usual with most Labour governments. Borrow loads and throw it down the pit of sh*t that is the wasteful public service sectorBoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:57 amWho are the “the plenty who will suffer” by the way?Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:50 am
Labour are a party of rhetoric, sound bites and promises they don’t keep, that’s politics, they are not alone. Though of late they have taken it to new high levels.
But what we got was typical Labour. Tax and spend. Huge borrowing too. Have we just witnessed a Liz Truss moment or inspirational changes? Time will tell of course. In the meantime plenty will suffer as a consequence. Let’s hope it’s worth the pain.
Well yeah, they bottled that bit. Interesting quote taken from Tax Justice UK - “The changes mean that those who get their income from wealth will still pay a much lower rate of tax than those who work for their living.”Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:12 am Shame they didn’t just close the tax loopholes on the trillionaire bankers then we wouldn’t have to raise NI contributions at all
Will it though. It’s good that it’s increased but so will prices to cover it. It’s just not that simple is it. I can’t remember a budget that’s made any meaningful difference to my life. Can you ?BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:44 amWell my question was aimed at Dohnut, who hasn’t responded yet, but why will “most suffer”? Raising min wage is going to help a lot of people, no?
I know it’s not simple but I still don’t why you think most will suffer.George M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:55 amWill it though. It’s good that it’s increased but so will prices to cover it. It’s just not that simple is it. I can’t remember a budget that’s made any meaningful difference to my life. Can you ?
I've run my details through one of those budget calculators and I will be £2.27 a year better off. All of that extra comes from the reduction in beer duty.George M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:55 amWill it though. It’s good that it’s increased but so will prices to cover it. It’s just not that simple is it. I can’t remember a budget that’s made any meaningful difference to my life. Can you ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgj72wxw8jxoBoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:44 amWell my question was aimed at Dohnut, who hasn’t responded yet, but why will “most suffer”? Raising min wage is going to help a lot of people, no?
Dunnem did this and the calculator said ‘ONE AT A TIME PLEASE’Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:09 amI've run my details through one of those budget calculators and I will be £2.27 a year better off. All of that extra comes from the reduction in beer duty.
As everyone does I lied to the calculator machine about my beer consumption so I reckon I will literally be £4.54 better off. Happy days.
Just my opinion that most will suffer through increasing prices. You can’t tax business more and not expect them to pass it on to the consumer. Coffee , as an example is already £3.50 a cup in London. Increase the barista wages and coffee goes up. That in itself is not awful , but , you get the pictureBoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:03 amI know it’s not simple but I still don’t why you think most will suffer.
Personally, I would have also made much bigger tax demands of the very rich and closed more tax loopholes, whilst increasing the number of bodies in HMRC to work cases. Maybe next time.
It really wasn’t. They haven’t gone anywhere near hard enough on the wealthiest.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:16 am You can tell it was a decent enough budget but the selfish righties on here frothing at the mouth
You can if they want to carry on in business.George M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:13 amJust my opinion that most will suffer through increasing prices. You can’t tax business more and not expect them to pass it on to the consumer. Coffee , as an example is already £3.50 a cup in London. Increase the barista wages and coffee goes up. That in itself is not awful , but , you get the picture
Don't be daft, they've not even got a Lettuce yet.Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:50 amLabour are a party of rhetoric, sound bites and promises they don’t keep, that’s politics, they are not alone. Though of late they have taken it to new high levels.Yanzi Gravy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:25 am She kept going on about portacabins as classrooms. I had one as a classroom in the 60’s when Labour were in power. They were warmer and smelt great as new. The kids loved them!
But what we got was typical Labour. Tax and spend. Huge borrowing too. Have we just witnessed a Liz Truss moment or inspirational changes? Time will tell of course. In the meantime plenty will suffer as a consequence. Let’s hope it’s worth the pain.
If you're paying £3.50 for Coffee you deserved to be taxedGeorge M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:13 amJust my opinion that most will suffer through increasing prices. You can’t tax business more and not expect them to pass it on to the consumer. Coffee , as an example is already £3.50 a cup in London. Increase the barista wages and coffee goes up. That in itself is not awful , but , you get the picture
Tim Martin & his nearly expired slops. No ThanksYanzi Gravy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:17 amTim Martin looks after drinkers everyday of the year, often with far more than a penny.Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:54 pmLook after the pennies & the pounds will, oh what'd the end of that famous saying?
Go into most pub chains and it will be hard to identify the penny you save. You have more chance of saving by looking for small change on the floor , most people cannot be bothered to pick up on the way to the pub.
I am not angry at the budget. It will make no difference to my circumstances.
Point me in the direction of a cheaper one if you canBandy Legs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:26 pmIf you're paying £3.50 for Coffee you deserved to be taxedGeorge M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:13 amJust my opinion that most will suffer through increasing prices. You can’t tax business more and not expect them to pass it on to the consumer. Coffee , as an example is already £3.50 a cup in London. Increase the barista wages and coffee goes up. That in itself is not awful , but , you get the picture
For someone it makes no difference to, you're making a lot of noise about it.George M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:35 pmI am not angry at the budget. It will make no difference to my circumstances.
You could have also added not giving away over £11Billion to other countries for climate change . Also untold £Billions in foreign aid to countries like China who recently sent a lander to the far side of the moon .George M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:33 amAgreed but , how about not wasting billions on the Ukraine. If we are that desperate for money , why are we borrowing whilst throwing money away on senseless wars .Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:12 am Shame they didn’t just close the tax loopholes on the trillionaire bankers then we wouldn’t have to raise NI contributions at all
That was money straight down the toilet without touching the porcelain .NoGeorge M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:36 pmPoint me in the direction of a cheaper one if you canBandy Legs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:26 pmIf you're paying £3.50 for Coffee you deserved to be taxedGeorge M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:13 am
Just my opinion that most will suffer through increasing prices. You can’t tax business more and not expect them to pass it on to the consumer. Coffee , as an example is already £3.50 a cup in London. Increase the barista wages and coffee goes up. That in itself is not awful , but , you get the picture
Which hasn't happened under this government yet.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:38 pmYou could have also added not giving away over £11Billion to other countries for climate change . Also untold £Billions in foreign aid to countries like China who recently sent a lander to the far side of the moon .George M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:33 amAgreed but , how about not wasting billions on the Ukraine. If we are that desperate for money , why are we borrowing whilst throwing money away on senseless wars .Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:12 am Shame they didn’t just close the tax loopholes on the trillionaire bankers then we wouldn’t have to raise NI contributions at allThat was money straight down the toilet without touching the porcelain .
Many will suffer. The idiot’s narrative about the rich etc and 14 years of Tory stuff is a diversion by those trying to avoid this. The more I get into it, the more damaging the potential in this budget. The rich will be fine. It’s a real bummer for the ordinary people. Mortgages, costs, jobs,pay increases, small businesses, farmers. The list just goes on. But hey 1p off a pint, that’s what makes the headlines. Sad.George M wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:06 amMost will suffer as a result of this budget. The only group that won’t will be civil servants as is usual with most Labour governments. Borrow loads and throw it down the pit of sh*t that is the wasteful public service sectorBoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:57 amWho are the “the plenty who will suffer” by the way?Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:50 am
Labour are a party of rhetoric, sound bites and promises they don’t keep, that’s politics, they are not alone. Though of late they have taken it to new high levels.
But what we got was typical Labour. Tax and spend. Huge borrowing too. Have we just witnessed a Liz Truss moment or inspirational changes? Time will tell of course. In the meantime plenty will suffer as a consequence. Let’s hope it’s worth the pain.
Oh, come on. £4m ain't a bribe. Unless it's the first instalment in a series of payments, £4m isn't worth getting out of bed for.
You have succumbed to the myth and total lies propagated by competitors. Let me tell you in no uncertain terms, as a CAMRA member too, there is rarely anything wrong with Wetherspoons Ale. CAMRA have awarded the company numerous awards over the years in recognition of their supreme service to the public.Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:27 pmTim Martin & his nearly expired slops. No ThanksYanzi Gravy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:17 amTim Martin looks after drinkers everyday of the year, often with far more than a penny.Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:54 pm
Look after the pennies & the pounds will, oh what'd the end of that famous saying?
Go into most pub chains and it will be hard to identify the penny you save. You have more chance of saving by looking for small change on the floor , most people cannot be bothered to pick up on the way to the pub.
