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Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:44 pm ..But he should have scored. Goal at his mercy. No excuses.

Haven’t made any, he should have scored but so should have Cooper..

Ridiculous to say “he has to go”
He probably should have gone near post which looks open but of course it’s easy to say sitting here after the event.
Wrexham showed us a lot of respect and clearly came for a point but it showed we have nothing to fear in this league.
On Kelman, my concern is if he gets injured we would need to bring someone in as I think Agyei would need a better partner than Perkins up front.

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:44 pm ..But he should have scored. Goal at his mercy. No excuses.

Name me a forward who never misses a chance and maybe I’ll start listening to you. Kelman is far from perfect but that was his one clear chance - he missed it unfortunately but sh*t happens. Get over it.

e15O wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:51 pm Also is Jaiyesimi now in Boco?

Very good question, he's not even mentioned when Dave Victor runs through the players who aren't making the squad

Correct , Sweeney isn't League One standard . I watched Jack Currie for the first time this afternoon and was very impressed . He's streets ahead of Sweeney .

Sending him out to an upper tier L2 side to play regular football would work well for both parties but we'd then need someone else in for depth.

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:44 pm Obeiro, Perkins, Sweeney, and others aren’t even in the squad. We are fine atm depth wise

Agree we could do with another striker

Tbh none of those 3 should be near our squad for mid-table L1 and above. It's no surprise since they've been removed from pitch time performances have improved. Our youths need a full season of L2 men's football and Perkins can go back to Leeds, we need better.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:39 pm

e15O wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:51 pm Also is Jaiyesimi now in Boco?

Very good question, he's not even mentioned when Dave Victor runs through the players who aren't making the squad

Correct , Sweeney isn't League One standard . I watched Jack Currie for the first time this afternoon and was very impressed . He's streets ahead of Sweeney .

Sending him out to an upper tier L2 side to play regular football would work well for both parties but we'd then need someone else in for depth.

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:44 pm Obeiro, Perkins, Sweeney, and others aren’t even in the squad. We are fine atm depth wise

Agree we could do with another striker

Tbh none of those 3 should be near our squad for mid-table L1 and above. It's no surprise since they've been removed from pitch time performances have improved. Our youths need a full season of L2 men's football and Perkins can go back to Leeds, we need better.

It’s unrealistic to have 25 pros who are all first teamers. And they aren’t near our first team squad. The fact we have those players not getting on the bench is a good sign that we have half decent depth.

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:55 pm
It’s unrealistic to have 25 pros who are all first teamers. And they aren’t near our first team squad. The fact we have those players not getting on the bench is a good sign that we have half decent depth.

They're not now but were for the first 4 games or so, too many youths in the XI and it showed. Much better balance at this point provided we can keep key players fit

gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:39 pm

e15O wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:51 pm Also is Jaiyesimi now in Boco?

Very good question, he's not even mentioned when Dave Victor runs through the players who aren't making the squad

Correct , Sweeney isn't League One standard . I watched Jack Currie for the first time this afternoon and was very impressed . He's streets ahead of Sweeney .

Sending him out to an upper tier L2 side to play regular football would work well for both parties but we'd then need someone else in for depth.

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:44 pm Obeiro, Perkins, Sweeney, and others aren’t even in the squad. We are fine atm depth wise

Agree we could do with another striker

Tbh none of those 3 should be near our squad for mid-table L1 and above. It's no surprise since they've been removed from pitch time performances have improved. Our youths need a full season of L2 men's football and Perkins can go back to Leeds, we need better.

Have you even seen Obeiro play???

gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:00 pm

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:55 pm
It’s unrealistic to have 25 pros who are all first teamers. And they aren’t near our first team squad. The fact we have those players not getting on the bench is a good sign that we have half decent depth.

They're not now but were for the first 4 games or so, too many youths in the XI and it showed. Much better balance at this point provided we can keep key players fit

Obeiro is unlucky to lose his place. The rest fair enough but you’re missing the point. They are now squad players which is an indication that we have better depth than the end of last season and the start of this

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:44 pm

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:44 pm ..But he should have scored. Goal at his mercy. No excuses.

Name me a forward who never misses a chance and maybe I’ll start listening to you. Kelman is far from perfect but that was his one clear chance - he missed it unfortunately but sh*t happens. Get over it.

To begin with you can easily stop listening to me. So all strikers miss chances do they ? Well I never would have thought so. Surely not...
And yet all we are talking about here is an every day commentary made by all football journalists about a striker missing an open goal. Maybe you just don't realise this happens with football.
I don't have to 'get over' anything but it sounds like you most certainly do have this problem to address.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:52 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:21 pm

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:03 pm

Yes, Kelman should have tucked that chance away. Bad miss. It was a strikers dream opening on goal.

A blind man could have scored that, he has to go. We played them off the park until we had to make changes. We lost our continuity. Spot on by Wellens with his formation. Wrexham will be lucky to be top six, if they are so sill we. Don’t care how much work Kelman puts in his finishing is shocking and the keeper still worries me.

Kelman should have hit the target yesterday but had scored twice in the previous three league games and added one assist. Wellens prefers him to Dan A because his work rate is far greater and overall he contributes more. Kelman is.more of a Wellens type team player. Dan A constantly got caught on the ball yesterday when he came on his link up play was non existent.

You slag off Kelman at every opportunity still while you are on at him you are leaving other people alone. 4 unbeaten and playing good football we are on the up and you still moan.

Absolute rubbish,” leaving other players alone” Kelman couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, sure he scores the odd goal he’s going to but so does James,Beccles and Brown but the ratio of chances missed by Kelman to his goals is a joke.The goal he got against Reading went straight through the keeper’s hands and a better keeper would have easily stopped it.I was right about Sweeney and I was right about Drinnan who by the way can’t even get into the Swindon side and Kelman is an exact copy of him. I also said Happe would be injured for long periods of the season and you won’t get more than six full games out of Graham. We need a central striker and to sign currie next window.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:46 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:52 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:21 pm

A blind man could have scored that, he has to go. We played them off the park until we had to make changes. We lost our continuity. Spot on by Wellens with his formation. Wrexham will be lucky to be top six, if they are so sill we. Don’t care how much work Kelman puts in his finishing is shocking and the keeper still worries me.

Kelman should have hit the target yesterday but had scored twice in the previous three league games and added one assist. Wellens prefers him to Dan A because his work rate is far greater and overall he contributes more. Kelman is.more of a Wellens type team player. Dan A constantly got caught on the ball yesterday when he came on his link up play was non existent.

You slag off Kelman at every opportunity still while you are on at him you are leaving other people alone. 4 unbeaten and playing good football we are on the up and you still moan.

Absolute rubbish,” leaving other players alone” Kelman couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, sure he scores the odd goal he’s going to but so does James,Beccles and Brown but the ratio of chances missed by Kelman to his goals is a joke.The goal he got against Reading went straight through the keeper’s hands and a better keeper would have easily stopped it.I was right about Sweeney and I was right about Drinnan who by the way can’t even get into the Swindon side and Kelman is an exact copy of him. I also said Happe would be injured for long periods of the season and you won’t get more than six full games out of Graham. We need a central striker and to sign currie next window.

You de man! What are the lotto numbers for next week?

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:46 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:52 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:21 pm

A blind man could have scored that, he has to go. We played them off the park until we had to make changes. We lost our continuity. Spot on by Wellens with his formation. Wrexham will be lucky to be top six, if they are so sill we. Don’t care how much work Kelman puts in his finishing is shocking and the keeper still worries me.

Kelman should have hit the target yesterday but had scored twice in the previous three league games and added one assist. Wellens prefers him to Dan A because his work rate is far greater and overall he contributes more. Kelman is.more of a Wellens type team player. Dan A constantly got caught on the ball yesterday when he came on his link up play was non existent.

You slag off Kelman at every opportunity still while you are on at him you are leaving other people alone. 4 unbeaten and playing good football we are on the up and you still moan.

Absolute rubbish,” leaving other players alone” Kelman couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, sure he scores the odd goal he’s going to but so does James,Beccles and Brown but the ratio of chances missed by Kelman to his goals is a joke.The goal he got against Reading went straight through the keeper’s hands and a better keeper would have easily stopped it.I was right about Sweeney and I was right about Drinnan who by the way can’t even get into the Swindon side and Kelman is an exact copy of him. I also said Happe would be injured for long periods of the season and you won’t get more than six full games out of Graham. We need a central striker and to sign currie next window.

Monkey Boy nah more like a poor mans Mystic Meg. You left out RW gone by Christmas and then the end of last season and then the summer and we are getting relegated which you predicted as early as September last season. How did those predictions go?

The only person you rate highly is yourself which is just as well because nobody else does. (other than your alias Sid Bishop).

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:14 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:46 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:52 pm

Kelman should have hit the target yesterday but had scored twice in the previous three league games and added one assist. Wellens prefers him to Dan A because his work rate is far greater and overall he contributes more. Kelman is.more of a Wellens type team player. Dan A constantly got caught on the ball yesterday when he came on his link up play was non existent.

You slag off Kelman at every opportunity still while you are on at him you are leaving other people alone. 4 unbeaten and playing good football we are on the up and you still moan.

Absolute rubbish,” leaving other players alone” Kelman couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, sure he scores the odd goal he’s going to but so does James,Beccles and Brown but the ratio of chances missed by Kelman to his goals is a joke.The goal he got against Reading went straight through the keeper’s hands and a better keeper would have easily stopped it.I was right about Sweeney and I was right about Drinnan who by the way can’t even get into the Swindon side and Kelman is an exact copy of him. I also said Happe would be injured for long periods of the season and you won’t get more than six full games out of Graham. We need a central striker and to sign currie next window.

Monkey Boy nah more like a poor mans Mystic Meg. You left out RW gone by Christmas and then the end of last season and then the summer and we are getting relegated which you predicted as early as September last season. How did those predictions go?

The only person you rate highly is yourself which is just as well because nobody else does. (other than your alias Sid Bishop).

Explain the fact that in the January window Wellens was asked if one of the two strikers he wanted was Kelman and it was an emphatic no. He was then shipped out to Wigan where they got rid at the end of his loan.No I don’t get everything right but however I get quite a few right.Your a typical cowardly key board worrier as there are a few on here,as I have said before but you haven’t got the nads to say it to somebody’s face. I post less and less on here because I have better things to do than argue with the likes of a coward like you. And no I’m not Sid Bishop and never have been but at least he’s more polite than you.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:05 am

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:14 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:46 pm

Absolute rubbish,” leaving other players alone” Kelman couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, sure he scores the odd goal he’s going to but so does James,Beccles and Brown but the ratio of chances missed by Kelman to his goals is a joke.The goal he got against Reading went straight through the keeper’s hands and a better keeper would have easily stopped it.I was right about Sweeney and I was right about Drinnan who by the way can’t even get into the Swindon side and Kelman is an exact copy of him. I also said Happe would be injured for long periods of the season and you won’t get more than six full games out of Graham. We need a central striker and to sign currie next window.

Monkey Boy nah more like a poor mans Mystic Meg. You left out RW gone by Christmas and then the end of last season and then the summer and we are getting relegated which you predicted as early as September last season. How did those predictions go?

The only person you rate highly is yourself which is just as well because nobody else does. (other than your alias Sid Bishop).

Explain the fact that in the January window Wellens was asked if one of the two strikers he wanted was Kelman and it was an emphatic no. He was then shipped out to Wigan where they got rid at the end of his loan.No I don’t get everything right but however I get quite a few right.Your a typical cowardly key board worrier as there are a few on here,as I have said before but you haven’t got the nads to say it to somebody’s face. I post less and less on here because I have better things to do than argue with the likes of a coward like you. And no I’m not Sid Bishop and never have been but at least he’s more polite than you.

Keyboard worrier .

Why am I a coward? last week it was Prop Joe wasn't it - anyone that disagrees and makes counter points to your negative jibberish you brand as a coward or keyboard warrior, tbh if there is a keyboard warrior on this board it's you, how many times do you offer people out with a "say it to my face moment" very odd behaviour.

‘Keyboard Worrier’ is brilliant.

Imagine getting all het up right now, just as the team starts to find its feet and launches the promotion push… some people will never be happy.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:44 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:05 am

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:14 pm

Monkey Boy nah more like a poor mans Mystic Meg. You left out RW gone by Christmas and then the end of last season and then the summer and we are getting relegated which you predicted as early as September last season. How did those predictions go?

The only person you rate highly is yourself which is just as well because nobody else does. (other than your alias Sid Bishop).

Explain the fact that in the January window Wellens was asked if one of the two strikers he wanted was Kelman and it was an emphatic no. He was then shipped out to Wigan where they got rid at the end of his loan.No I don’t get everything right but however I get quite a few right.Your a typical cowardly key board worrier as there are a few on here,as I have said before but you haven’t got the nads to say it to somebody’s face. I post less and less on here because I have better things to do than argue with the likes of a coward like you. And no I’m not Sid Bishop and never have been but at least he’s more polite than you.

Keyboard worrier .

Why am I a coward? last week it was Prop Joe wasn't it - anyone that disagrees and makes counter points to your negative jibberish you brand as a coward or keyboard warrior, tbh if there is a keyboard warrior on this board it's you, how many times do you offer people out with a "say it to my face moment" very odd behaviour.

Nice swerve,now answer my question why wasn’t Kelman one of the two transfers targets in the January window when given the choice if he were that good ? It’s much easier to attack someone’s personally and opinion but not answer my question. So answer it.

I wonder why Wellens did not want Kelman in January, but then changed his mind in the Summer

Story of O wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:30 am I wonder why Wellens did not want Kelman in January, but then changed his mind in the Summer

You know as well as me,finance

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:14 am

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:44 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:05 am

Explain the fact that in the January window Wellens was asked if one of the two strikers he wanted was Kelman and it was an emphatic no. He was then shipped out to Wigan where they got rid at the end of his loan.No I don’t get everything right but however I get quite a few right.Your a typical cowardly key board worrier as there are a few on here,as I have said before but you haven’t got the nads to say it to somebody’s face. I post less and less on here because I have better things to do than argue with the likes of a coward like you. And no I’m not Sid Bishop and never have been but at least he’s more polite than you.

Keyboard worrier .

Why am I a coward? last week it was Prop Joe wasn't it - anyone that disagrees and makes counter points to your negative jibberish you brand as a coward or keyboard warrior, tbh if there is a keyboard warrior on this board it's you, how many times do you offer people out with a "say it to my face moment" very odd behaviour.

Nice swerve,now answer my question why wasn’t Kelman one of the two transfers targets in the January window when given the choice if he were that good ? It’s much easier to attack someone’s personally and opinion but not answer my question. So answer it.

Funny how quick people like you come back with some sort personal attack yet can’t have a serious debate about footballing matters. So what’s your answer ????

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:46 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:52 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:21 pm

A blind man could have scored that, he has to go. We played them off the park until we had to make changes. We lost our continuity. Spot on by Wellens with his formation. Wrexham will be lucky to be top six, if they are so sill we. Don’t care how much work Kelman puts in his finishing is shocking and the keeper still worries me.

Kelman should have hit the target yesterday but had scored twice in the previous three league games and added one assist. Wellens prefers him to Dan A because his work rate is far greater and overall he contributes more. Kelman is.more of a Wellens type team player. Dan A constantly got caught on the ball yesterday when he came on his link up play was non existent.

You slag off Kelman at every opportunity still while you are on at him you are leaving other people alone. 4 unbeaten and playing good football we are on the up and you still moan.

Absolute rubbish,” leaving other players alone” Kelman couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, sure he scores the odd goal he’s going to but so does James,Beccles and Brown but the ratio of chances missed by Kelman to his goals is a joke.The goal he got against Reading went straight through the keeper’s hands and a better keeper would have easily stopped it.I was right about Sweeney and I was right about Drinnan who by the way can’t even get into the Swindon side and Kelman is an exact copy of him. I also said Happe would be injured for long periods of the season and you won’t get more than six full games out of Graham. We need a central striker and to sign currie next window.

Drinan started on Saturday for Swindon

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:38 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:14 am

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:44 am

Keyboard worrier .

Why am I a coward? last week it was Prop Joe wasn't it - anyone that disagrees and makes counter points to your negative jibberish you brand as a coward or keyboard warrior, tbh if there is a keyboard warrior on this board it's you, how many times do you offer people out with a "say it to my face moment" very odd behaviour.

Nice swerve,now answer my question why wasn’t Kelman one of the two transfers targets in the January window when given the choice if he were that good ? It’s much easier to attack someone’s personally and opinion but not answer my question. So answer it.

Funny how quick people like you come back with some sort personal attack yet can’t have a serious debate about footballing matters. So what’s your answer ????

Waiting

Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:59 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:46 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:52 pm

Kelman should have hit the target yesterday but had scored twice in the previous three league games and added one assist. Wellens prefers him to Dan A because his work rate is far greater and overall he contributes more. Kelman is.more of a Wellens type team player. Dan A constantly got caught on the ball yesterday when he came on his link up play was non existent.

You slag off Kelman at every opportunity still while you are on at him you are leaving other people alone. 4 unbeaten and playing good football we are on the up and you still moan.

Absolute rubbish,” leaving other players alone” Kelman couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, sure he scores the odd goal he’s going to but so does James,Beccles and Brown but the ratio of chances missed by Kelman to his goals is a joke.The goal he got against Reading went straight through the keeper’s hands and a better keeper would have easily stopped it.I was right about Sweeney and I was right about Drinnan who by the way can’t even get into the Swindon side and Kelman is an exact copy of him. I also said Happe would be injured for long periods of the season and you won’t get more than six full games out of Graham. We need a central striker and to sign currie next window.

Drinan started on Saturday for Swindon

He was hooked off and how many has he scored this season?

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:52 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:38 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:14 am

Nice swerve,now answer my question why wasn’t Kelman one of the two transfers targets in the January window when given the choice if he were that good ? It’s much easier to attack someone’s personally and opinion but not answer my question. So answer it.

Funny how quick people like you come back with some sort personal attack yet can’t have a serious debate about footballing matters. So what’s your answer ????

Waiting

Still waiting

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:38 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:14 am

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:44 am

Keyboard worrier .

Why am I a coward? last week it was Prop Joe wasn't it - anyone that disagrees and makes counter points to your negative jibberish you brand as a coward or keyboard warrior, tbh if there is a keyboard warrior on this board it's you, how many times do you offer people out with a "say it to my face moment" very odd behaviour.

Nice swerve,now answer my question why wasn’t Kelman one of the two transfers targets in the January window when given the choice if he were that good ? It’s much easier to attack someone’s personally and opinion but not answer my question. So answer it.

Funny how quick people like you come back with some sort personal attack yet can’t have a serious debate about footballing matters. So what’s your answer ????

Unlike you I don’t sit on the computer all day posting (mainly crap tbh), I have other priorities and believe me you are right at the bottom of my list.

He wanted to sign Kelman last pre-season but QPR wanted to keep him and he was/is in contract. Wigan went in for a loan after Christmas and he was allowed to go there in the second window so he wasn’t available to us in January as Wigan had first dibs.

Personal attacks what a load of bull shine, Coming from Mr “Say it to my face” that’s pure hypocricy. You keyboard worrier you anytime somebody disagrees with you it’s personal and you want to fight them what a man child you are, still carryon digging out the club staff and players, or for a change get behind them.

Wonder why RW doesn't fancy Obiero, Sweeney, Jayesimi and Agyei ?