Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Hi Max

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:06 pm Because he picked up an injury in a pre season friendly. I thought that was common knowledge (although the exact nature of the injury was kept quiet for some reason).

Are you an Orient fan or one of these chaps that just come on here for a row?

He’s been on here before under different names, guess who

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:41 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:06 pm Because he picked up an injury in a pre season friendly. I thought that was common knowledge (although the exact nature of the injury was kept quiet for some reason).

Are you an Orient fan or one of these chaps that just come on here for a row?

He’s been on here before under different names, guess who

9 or 10 years ago on the red version, but never here

Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

Qin
It's about Quality & not quantity, doesn't mean their any good.

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

Totally agree, there clearly is a major problem historically with Martin Ling and the so called transfer committee maybe it’s time for heads to roll.

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:47 pm

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

Totally agree, there clearly is a major problem historically with Martin Ling and the so called transfer committee maybe it’s time for heads to roll.

I was under the impression that RW said the reason we had a bad start last season was that the players brought in didn’t have a full pre season. So no change there then.

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:47 pm

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

Totally agree, there clearly is a major problem historically with Martin Ling and the so called transfer committee maybe it’s time for heads to roll.

Maybe try and keep up. There has been no transfer committee for 2 seasons, it’s down to Wellens to identify players and Ling sorts out the contracts. I don’t see Wellens getting upset about lack of signings he was gushing about getting the lad in from Everton, there are two more done according to RW just need completing. We could have the squad more or less complete by the end of the Spain trip.

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

House prices in both Boston & Rotherham must be cheaper than London

Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:29 pm

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

House prices in both Boston & Rotherham must be cheaper than London

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:49 pm

Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:29 pm

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

House prices in both Boston & Rotherham must be cheaper than London

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:17 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:47 pm

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

Totally agree, there clearly is a major problem historically with Martin Ling and the so called transfer committee maybe it’s time for heads to roll.

Maybe try and keep up. There has been no transfer committee for 2 seasons, it’s down to Wellens to identify players and Ling sorts out the contracts. I don’t see Wellens getting upset about lack of signings he was gushing about getting the lad in from Everton, there are two more done according to RW just need completing. We could have the squad more or less complete by the end of the Spain trip.

Hope you are right Jess ? As long as we produce on the pitch win or loose I’ll be happy

Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:00 pm At last you agree, 2 injuries kept him out for 26 games, where he wasn't physically able " to lead the line". Physical strength includes the ability to stay fit for a season. If Agyei only had Ruels robustness

The idea that physical strength precludes you from getting injured is one of the most nonsensical things I've seen on here.

https://www.dssportstherapy.co.uk/blog/ ... -of-injury I'm glad you don't work with Keton, click the menu box, click blog & scrool to strength prevents injury, why else would Happe,Clay,Graham & Archibald spend months in a gym building muscle strength back. Dan Agyei came back from injury to early first time round & was out again end of January

So you'd argue players like Adama Traore and Michail Antonio are not physically strong?

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:17 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:47 pm

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

Totally agree, there clearly is a major problem historically with Martin Ling and the so called transfer committee maybe it’s time for heads to roll.

Maybe try and keep up. There has been no transfer committee for 2 seasons, it’s down to Wellens to identify players and Ling sorts out the contracts. I don’t see Wellens getting upset about lack of signings he was gushing about getting the lad in from Everton, there are two more done according to RW just need completing. We could have the squad more or less complete by the end of the Spain trip.

It would be beneficial if these next two signings could be completed before the clubs trip to Spain . Spending time together in Spain would help our new players with settling down into the squad .

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

Rotherham- bigger budget, signed players we can't afford.

Burton- 16 players brought in that most are young and unproven. Only see 3 established players there.

Adz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:44 am So you'd argue players like Adama Traore and Michail Antonio are not physically strong?

More muscles to pull/injure?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:28 am

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:17 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:47 pm

Totally agree, there clearly is a major problem historically with Martin Ling and the so called transfer committee maybe it’s time for heads to roll.

Maybe try and keep up. There has been no transfer committee for 2 seasons, it’s down to Wellens to identify players and Ling sorts out the contracts. I don’t see Wellens getting upset about lack of signings he was gushing about getting the lad in from Everton, there are two more done according to RW just need completing. We could have the squad more or less complete by the end of the Spain trip.

It would be beneficial if these next two signings could be completed before the clubs trip to Spain . Spending time together in Spain would help our new players with settling down into the squad .

I'm sure that's the plan and if we got another one or two next week we can fly them out to the training camp.Not sure if it'd relevant but Ling went down with Covid on Monday but it shouldn't delay things, I'm sure there are other people who can sign off on the transfer forms. But it might mean tea instead of Coffee.

Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:38 am

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

Rotherham- bigger budget, signed players we can't afford.

Burton- 16 players brought in that most are young and unproven. Only see 3 established players there.

You are totally missing the point I was making.

I used the examples of Rotherham & Burton, simply as examples that other teams don't find it difficult to bring in players like we appear to do.

Who the players are is irrelevant, it's just the process of actually bringing new players in the building that I mentioned those two clubs.

Regardless of whether they're experienced players or not - I have no idea, but some above say they're not - anyone thinking Burton signing SIXTEEN players in one window, basically creating a whole squad from scratch, is evidence of something we should aspire to be more like is absolutely mental. Have a word with yourselves.

Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:00 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:41 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:06 pm Because he picked up an injury in a pre season friendly. I thought that was common knowledge (although the exact nature of the injury was kept quiet for some reason).

Are you an Orient fan or one of these chaps that just come on here for a row?

He’s been on here before under different names, guess who

9 or 10 years ago on the red version, but never here

You don’t have to explain yourself he is fixated with a previous boarder so he randomly accuses people of being said boarder, pretty sad really

Are we expecting any signings today?

Im hoping the 2 players mentioned by RW will be signed by end of today

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:18 pm

B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:06 am

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:54 pm The only point I want to make is that Dan is physical and has the physical presence required to lead the line on his own, something none of our other strikers have.

Ask any defender who went up against Agyei last season if he’s physical or not. I know what their answer will be.

There is no “leading the line” the manager tells the team how he wants them to play, even the captain cannot change the way the team plays, he’s only there to encourage them and as a focal point for the officials.

Er, whaaat?

I guess you’d struggle with that, but can’t make it more it any more simple for you suck it up

Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:17 pm Whoever we end up bringing here, one thing's seems obvious.... The club is really cr@p at bringing players here.

No idea why, but other clubs have no trouble at all

Burton have managed to bring in 16 players so far, Rotherham 11 that I know of.

Most transfer windows seem difficult for us too. (Remember January 22- Ray, Nouble etc)

This is the worst take. Signing loads of players is generally a sign of weakness, not strength. Would've preferred us to get players in earlier for the purpose of getting them integrated into the squad, but we've generally improved our squad every summer under the current set up, so something is obviously working. January we seem to struggle with a little more.

The core of the team is good, we really only need a keeper and a full back to have a full strength starting 11.