Re: Exiles thread - Bolton (A)
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:51 pm
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Yes if he’s had the final say on what players he wants? No if it’s out of his hands.
I think because they have the same level of resources as us. You don't need to be Derby or Bolton to compete, but you do need to buy wisely and stop shopping at the end of the window when all the decent players have gone.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:38 pmWhy do people keep going on about what Stevenage are doing ?
Quite obviously this is not last season and they have moved on and improved, but so far, that is not the case with Leyton Orient !
It was the opposite.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:41 pmOr trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his idealsgshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:37 pmAnd therein lies the problem. Didn't recruit L1 proven quality and it's showing badly against all but the very worst sidesTop of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:36 pm Big gap in class today. We have been poor and Bolton right at it.
So basically Richie got his tactics wrong ? .Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:57 pmIt was the opposite.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:41 pmOr trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his ideals
We gave them too much respect and just sat off them. Since changing it around and going 4 v 4 up the other end, it’s looked totally different.
Possibly.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:59 pmSo basically Richie got his tactics wrong ? .Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:57 pmIt was the opposite.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:41 pm
Or trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his ideals
We gave them too much respect and just sat off them. Since changing it around and going 4 v 4 up the other end, it’s looked totally different.
It’s not the first timeRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:59 pmSo basically Richie got his tactics wrong ? .Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:57 pmIt was the opposite.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:41 pm
Or trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his ideals
We gave them too much respect and just sat off them. Since changing it around and going 4 v 4 up the other end, it’s looked totally different.
We didn’t sit off them. We couldn’t get near them. Their movement was too good for us and we lacked numbers in crucial areas.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:57 pmIt was the opposite.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:41 pmOr trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his ideals
We gave them too much respect and just sat off them. Since changing it around and going 4 v 4 up the other end, it’s looked totally different.
Quite right. He has a stubborn streak.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:41 pmOr trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his idealsgshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:37 pmAnd therein lies the problem. Didn't recruit L1 proven quality and it's showing badly against all but the very worst sidesTop of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:36 pm Big gap in class today. We have been poor and Bolton right at it.
For the selection yes, though I expect a quote along the lines of "I don't have the tools to compete at this level" and he'd be rightMonkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:55 pmYes if he’s had the final say on what players he wants? No if it’s out of his hands.
Did he? There is a transfer committee. They make their decisions based on value to the club and he bases his on who he wants.Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:49 pmThe players he brought in you meanBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:47 pmWho else does the manager have? He can only pick the players in this squad.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:26 pm Shocking line up, tactics and some absolutely bonkers mistakes. Happe is so clearly not good enough for this level, it's astonishing he's getting picked.
But we did sit off them.DrWindy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:03 pmWe didn’t sit off them. We couldn’t get near them. Their movement was too good for us and we lacked numbers in crucial areas.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:57 pmIt was the opposite.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:41 pm
Or trying to outplay a better side Is stupidity and where Wellens lacks and won't let go of his ideals
We gave them too much respect and just sat off them. Since changing it around and going 4 v 4 up the other end, it’s looked totally different.
So long as we don't finish in the bottom four I'd be pleased .BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:04 pmDid he? There is a transfer committee. They make their decisions based on value to the club and he bases his on who he wants.Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:49 pmThe players he brought in you meanBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:47 pm
Who else does the manager have? He can only pick the players in this squad.
The defence are the same as last season and the GK coach recommended Brynn.
Forde had a half decent season in non-league. Howes had a half decent career in non-league.
We have 1 fit winger and are forced to play wing backs - not the formation he wants to play. When he does go 4 at the back, he’s forced to play strikers on the wings who both want to come inside.
We have a wage thief in the squad who is supposed to be the creative hub but he does f*** all other than eat.
Orient are exactly where everyone expected them to be come the end of the season.
Does it matter. ? The game today was over after the first ten minutes .corkeireorient wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:10 pm i wonder will we ship another goal early 2nd half , as usual ?