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Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:58 am
by greyhound
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:37 am
by Max B Gold
Well that's a bit rude.
Why are these yellow Tories so filled with hate?
Could it be just like the Blue Tories they fear the power of organised workers?
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:45 am
by RedDwarf 1881
The Illiberal Undémocrates have now finally lost the plot ....Big Time !!
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:23 am
by PAM
Most recent poll just released
Conservatives 32% (-)
Liberal Dempcrats 23% (+4)
Labour 21% (-2)
Brexit Party 14% (-)
Green 4% (-3)
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:20 am
by Eat The Rich
PAM wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:23 am
Most recent poll just released
Conservatives 32% (-)
Liberal Dempcrats 23% (+4)
Labour 21% (-2)
Brexit Party 14% (-)
Green 4% (-3)
As I've said before, despite voting Labour, I'm no Labourite or Social Democrat. That said It seems undeniable to me that Corbyn and Labour are denigrated mercilessly in the media in a way that simply doesn't happen to the Tories or the Lib Dems. The reasons are fairly obvious. What we see during election periods is that, suddenly forced to report somewhat impartially, Labour enjoys a significant boost in the polls.
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:48 am
by Still's Carenae
The remain vote has just shifted around.
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:50 am
by ComeOnYouOs
PAM cant wait to share news that is bad for Labour, such as a poll showing them in third place. His fervour when such events occur seems quite unhealthy actually.
Ill bet you now PAM, Labour will come first or second in any election held this autumn, and will finish well ahead in seat numbers, than the illiberal dems
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:32 am
by Long slender neck
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:20 am
PAM wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:23 am
Most recent poll just released
Conservatives 32% (-)
Liberal Dempcrats 23% (+4)
Labour 21% (-2)
Brexit Party 14% (-)
Green 4% (-3)
As I've said before, despite voting Labour, I'm no Labourite or Social Democrat. That said It seems undeniable to me that Corbyn and Labour are denigrated mercilessly in the media in a way that simply doesn't happen to the Tories or the Lib Dems. The reasons are fairly obvious. What we see during election periods is that, suddenly forced to report somewhat impartially, Labour enjoys a significant boost in the polls.
Come on now, Boris has been publicly humiliated in the press at least twice this last week alone
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:50 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:20 am The reasons are fairly obvious. What we see during election periods is that, suddenly forced to report somewhat impartially, Labour enjoys a significant boost in the polls.
Never twigged that. I guess I don't realise just how stupid some people are.
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:50 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:32 am
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:20 am
PAM wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:23 am
Most recent poll just released
Conservatives 32% (-)
Liberal Dempcrats 23% (+4)
Labour 21% (-2)
Brexit Party 14% (-)
Green 4% (-3)
As I've said before, despite voting Labour, I'm no Labourite or Social Democrat. That said It seems undeniable to me that Corbyn and Labour are denigrated mercilessly in the media in a way that simply doesn't happen to the Tories or the Lib Dems. The reasons are fairly obvious. What we see during election periods is that, suddenly forced to report somewhat impartially, Labour enjoys a significant boost in the polls.
Come on now, Boris has been publicly humiliated in the press at least twice this last week alone
What humiliations were they?
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:51 am
by Long slender neck
The Luxembourg thing and being confronted by the angry labour activist.
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:54 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:58 am
by greyhound
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:51 am
The Luxembourg thing and being confronted by the angry labour activist.
every leader whatever party always suffer the same barracking.
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:06 am
by PAM
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:50 am
PAM cant wait to share news that is bad for Labour, such as a poll showing them in third place. His fervour when such events occur seems quite unhealthy actually.
Ill bet you now PAM, Labour will come first or second in any election held this autumn, and will finish well ahead in seat numbers, than the illiberal dems
They'll come second, again
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:53 pm
by PAM
Another poll this time IpsosMori showing Lib gaining on Lab
CONSERVATIVE: 33% (-1)
LABOUR: 24% (-)
LIBDEMS: 23% (+3)
BREXIT: 10% (+1)
GREEN: 4% (-2)
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:51 pm
by Max B Gold
PAM wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:53 pm
Another poll this time IpsosMori showing Lib gaining on Lab
CONSERVATIVE: 33% (-1)
LABOUR: 24% (-)
LIBDEMS: 23% (+3)
BREXIT: 10% (+1)
GREEN: 4% (-2)
These polls are almost inevitably wrong and not worth the paper they are written on except to the people who commission them like Hedge Funds and their helpers in the media and politics.
Labour will put on 16 points in an election campaign which will be enough to secure a majority as the Brexit Party, SNP and Liebrals eat into the Tories share. Even if the Libs get 24% it won't translate into seats as its too evenly spread across the UK with exceptions in the SW of England and Orkney.
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:57 pm
by PAM
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:14 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:51 pm
PAM wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:53 pm
Another poll this time IpsosMori showing Lib gaining on Lab
CONSERVATIVE: 33% (-1)
LABOUR: 24% (-)
LIBDEMS: 23% (+3)
BREXIT: 10% (+1)
GREEN: 4% (-2)
These polls are almost inevitably wrong and not worth the paper they are written on except to the people who commission them like Hedge Funds and their helpers in the media and politics.
Labour will put on 16 points in an election campaign which will be enough to secure a majority as the Brexit Party, SNP and Liebrals eat into the Tories share. Even if the Libs get 24% it won't translate into seats as its too evenly spread across the UK with exceptions in the SW of England and Orkney.
I love your confidence in the Labour Party. Somehow I don’t think that will come true. Only time will tell
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:56 pm
by Mistadobalina
Ideal situation would be a non aggression pact between lib Dems and labour to keep the Tories out, which has to be the absolute priority. The leave vote will rally and unify, the remain vote won't without some kind of deal. If the lib Dems get into the high teens whilst going up against Labour then the Tories get a majority.
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:58 pm
by Max B Gold
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:56 pm
Ideal situation would be a non aggression pact between lib Dems and labour to keep the Tories out,
What's the weather like today in Cloud Cuckoo Land?
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:03 pm
by Mistadobalina
Of course it won't happen. And we'll get Johnson.
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:47 pm
by PAM
Corbyn saying he'll stay neutral in any future referendum makes it even less likely
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:01 pm
by Max B Gold
PAM wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:47 pm
Corbyn saying he'll stay neutral in any future referendum makes it even less likely
It wont be up to him. The party will decide what position to take at the upcoming conference.
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:07 pm
by PAM
Who decides what motions get debated and voted on though...
Besides, the content of the manifesto is decided by The shadow front bench, PLP and unions at a Clause V meeting not conference.
Looking forward to the machinations from the LOTO's office, the neutral position is not tenable long term anyway.
Re: Lib Dem Watch
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:37 pm
by Disoriented
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:37 am
Well that's a bit rude.
Why are these yellow Tories so filled with hate?
Could it be just like the Blue Tories they fear the power of organised workers?
They have no fear - they sense the weaknesses of the ‘main’ parties.
