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No need to get narky Doh the penny obviously hasn't dropped with some. Dartford are anything but a tinpot club, nice ground.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:29 pm Jeez for gods sake we all know about friendly games oh masterful one. Some of us know its also a chance to try things out and give fringe players the opportunity to make a statement. Nobody is going OTT. The fringe players failed to make a case for being any more than fringe players and poor ones at that. Sergeant did well enough though. The others will hardly give Ross selection headaches. The lack of competition bothers me. Especially as Jobi was doing lots of coaching
What game were you watching? Wright was easily our best player. Kept possession well and played a couple of very nice through balls.
Read my comment again - there is no chance we spent the money received from Bonne and Koroma on those two.Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:55 pmWe paid fees for Wilkinson and Angol so that is simply wrong.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:42 pmWe sold our best attackers for peanuts and have not invested even those paltry funds back into the team.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:40 pm
We all know it’s a nothing game but it has value. A chance for fringe players, those we may rely on, during a long hard season to show what they can do like Sargent and of course we had a number of probable starters playing.
If people feel there is nothing to be learned from these games fine. But you need to look a little deeper. Ross gave all three second string strikers a go. They contributed very little. Wright spent most of the game playing sideways and by and large our midfield created nothing. Sure no major issue in a friendly but not positive when considering competition for places. Not much.
What I learned from the game is god help us when we lose our main strikers and little competition for the main spots. Didn’t see many of the fringe players giving Ross difficult choices
Apologies. Their ground is really nice. Good bar and refreshments tooTop of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:41 pmNo need to get narky Doh the penny obviously hasn't dropped with some. Dartford are anything but a tinpot club, nice ground.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:29 pm Jeez for gods sake we all know about friendly games oh masterful one. Some of us know its also a chance to try things out and give fringe players the opportunity to make a statement. Nobody is going OTT. The fringe players failed to make a case for being any more than fringe players and poor ones at that. Sergeant did well enough though. The others will hardly give Ross selection headaches. The lack of competition bothers me. Especially as Jobi was doing lots of coaching
Did they have burgers too? That would really rub it in.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:03 pmApologies. Their ground is really nice. Good bar and refreshments tooTop of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:41 pmNo need to get narky Doh the penny obviously hasn't dropped with some. Dartford are anything but a tinpot club, nice ground.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:29 pm Jeez for gods sake we all know about friendly games oh masterful one. Some of us know its also a chance to try things out and give fringe players the opportunity to make a statement. Nobody is going OTT. The fringe players failed to make a case for being any more than fringe players and poor ones at that. Sergeant did well enough though. The others will hardly give Ross selection headaches. The lack of competition bothers me. Especially as Jobi was doing lots of coaching
And an electronic score board. We don’t have that or a car park.
Always good to get ratings. Happe and Coulson did what was needed. 6. Widdowson if he could ever learn to shoot would be a 7. Wright I thought was generally non effective and no more than a 5. Had lung not scored then a 4Orient-Jude wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:35 pm Ratings if anyone is interested:
Sargent 6
Ling 5
Ekpiteta 6
Happe 5
Coulson 5
Widdowson 5
Brophy 6
Wright 7
Shabani 4
Soutiriou 5
Harrold 5
Subs:
Judd 6
Alabi 5
The local council own the ground and the facilities a bit like Col U, be nice in LBWF built something for us but it will never happen.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:03 pmApologies. Their ground is really nice. Good bar and refreshments tooTop of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:41 pmNo need to get narky Doh the penny obviously hasn't dropped with some. Dartford are anything but a tinpot club, nice ground.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:29 pm Jeez for gods sake we all know about friendly games oh masterful one. Some of us know its also a chance to try things out and give fringe players the opportunity to make a statement. Nobody is going OTT. The fringe players failed to make a case for being any more than fringe players and poor ones at that. Sergeant did well enough though. The others will hardly give Ross selection headaches. The lack of competition bothers me. Especially as Jobi was doing lots of coaching
And an electronic score board. We don’t have that or a car park.
OK but how much do you think we got for Bonne and Koroma?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:01 pmRead my comment again - there is no chance we spent the money received from Bonne and Koroma on those two.Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:55 pmWe paid fees for Wilkinson and Angol so that is simply wrong.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:42 pm
We sold our best attackers for peanuts and have not invested even those paltry funds back into the team.
£700 000Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:22 pmOK but how much do you think we got for Bonne and Koroma?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:01 pmRead my comment again - there is no chance we spent the money received from Bonne and Koroma on those two.Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:55 pm
We paid fees for Wilkinson and Angol so that is simply wrong.
Yep, did you expect the owners to reinvest that amount on two new strikers?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:26 pm£700 000Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:22 pmOK but how much do you think we got for Bonne and Koroma?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:01 pm
Read my comment again - there is no chance we spent the money received from Bonne and Koroma on those two.
No, on a number of players. So far it is clear the money is going elsewhere in the absence of contrary evidence. There is still time of course, but it does not look likely.Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:32 pmYep, did you expect the owners to reinvest that amount on two new strikers?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:26 pm£700 000Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:22 pm
OK but how much do you think we got for Bonne and Koroma?
NL was absolutely tinpot and I'm glad to see the back of it. The football was crap, refereeing was crap, NL paper was the only thing good about it.Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:05 pmVery condescending to call other clubs and teams "tinpot" but you did it all last season as much as you think they are in awe of playing Orient you sound like a premiership fan talking about league one or two side and we all hate those condescending mouthy prem fans, you just come across as being the same when we play a club from a lower division you should show these clubs a bit of respect, it's not like we haven't played Dartford in a friendly in pre season before now is it.gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:52 pmBrill and McAnuff haven't played a minute of pre-season thus far, no suggestion they'll suddenly spring up any time soon ready for the real games to start.Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:16 pm So we don't play Brill, McAnuff, Clay, Gorman, JMD, Wilkinson, and Angol all who would probably start or be in the 18 if fit against Cheltenham and most who will play against Bishops Stortford in midweek. Give minutes to players who need them come away with another clean sheet and the usual moaners pop up because it's not good enough.
As said numerous times we won't be playing tinpot crap sides this season who were in awe of playing a team as "big" as Orient. If we're short of options to change a game we'll be punished and we look very thin on the ground for quality outside of the starting XI.
Obviously it's about fitness at the moment not that it's sinking in with some people. We all agree we are a couple of players short still two weeks until our first league game so still time.
Got any evidence for this or have you just made it up to fit some flimsy argument?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:38 pm Cant read too much into friendlies, but i'm going to.
Find it interesting that the last 3 games, we've kept a clean sheet and not scored many. Usually pre-season is full of goals, like 6-5s. Partly because you set out to be attacking and score goals. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come and we know our defence is our strong point. Keep it real tight and hope for a goal, rather than attack from the off. Be interesting to see how we start the season, especially as our first two are winnable games.
Given that Womble speaks more sense on a bad day than you do at your most lucid (i.e. when you are not frothing at the mouth), that is some comment.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:49 pmGot any evidence for this or have you just made it up to fit some flimsy argument?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:38 pm Cant read too much into friendlies, but i'm going to.
Find it interesting that the last 3 games, we've kept a clean sheet and not scored many. Usually pre-season is full of goals, like 6-5s. Partly because you set out to be attacking and score goals. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come and we know our defence is our strong point. Keep it real tight and hope for a goal, rather than attack from the off. Be interesting to see how we start the season, especially as our first two are winnable games.
Watching the one you obviously weren’t could of shot twice at goal bottled it his distribution was at best shocking lot of his passing fell short of the intended target and almost got Brophy seriously injured with a no hope through ballOrient-Jude wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:01 pmWhat game were you watching? Wright was easily our best player. Kept possession well and played a couple of very nice through balls.
Worst player on the park? Could you honestly say he was worse than Shabani or Ling? Think some people have already got it in for him because he was poor when he played for us before.
Well he’s correct about the 3 clean sheetsMillennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:49 pmGot any evidence for this or have you just made it up to fit some flimsy argument?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:38 pm Cant read too much into friendlies, but i'm going to.
Find it interesting that the last 3 games, we've kept a clean sheet and not scored many. Usually pre-season is full of goals, like 6-5s. Partly because you set out to be attacking and score goals. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come and we know our defence is our strong point. Keep it real tight and hope for a goal, rather than attack from the off. Be interesting to see how we start the season, especially as our first two are winnable games.
And how much do they charge for a kids season ticket? How much have they gone up from last year?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:06 pmDid they have burgers too? That would really rub it in.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:03 pmApologies. Their ground is really nice. Good bar and refreshments tooTop of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:41 pm
No need to get narky Doh the penny obviously hasn't dropped with some. Dartford are anything but a tinpot club, nice ground.
And an electronic score board. We don’t have that or a car park.
Are you insinuating that our club is trying to dissuade our yoof fans from coming?Tom Chance wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:44 pmAnd how much do they charge for a kids season ticket? How much have they gone up from last year?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:06 pmDid they have burgers too? That would really rub it in.
Thank you.Orient-Jude wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:35 pm Ratings if anyone is interested:
Sargent 6
Ling 5
Ekpiteta 6
Happe 5
Coulson 5
Widdowson 5
Brophy 6
Wright 7
Shabani 4
Soutiriou 5
Harrold 5
Subs:
Judd 6
Alabi 5
Not a clue. I was trying to work out our formation. 3-5-2 is a good a guess as any. Was standing behind Ross who was relaying instructions about moving players about. Though I moved on after 30 minutes. Seemed he was trying things out on the hoof. Fair enough for a friendly.CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:51 amThank you.Orient-Jude wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:35 pm Ratings if anyone is interested:
Sargent 6
Ling 5
Ekpiteta 6
Happe 5
Coulson 5
Widdowson 5
Brophy 6
Wright 7
Shabani 4
Soutiriou 5
Harrold 5
Subs:
Judd 6
Alabi 5
Was that 3-5-2 with Brophy central?