Harlow FC

[Give it to Jabo]

If the club has to move on, how about where Walthamstow Pool and Track is currently positioned?

[Proposition Joe]

What about everyone who uses the pool and track?

[StillSpike]

We could do a ground swap with St Patrick's Cemetery. It'd be much bigger and closer to the station and the Birky.

[oriboy]

I'll throw a curve ball in. What about Dagenham. Lots of spaces out there for a stadium, tube and overground links and also in East London (ish)

[Give it to Jabo]

What about everyone who uses the pool and track?

Just the track then. Do many people use the track these days. Plenty of space.

[Story of O]

The council won’t remove a public facility for us. And the track is used by athletes of all ages and abilities

[Proposition Joe]

Bulldoze a community asset in the Borough, these ideas are getting even better.

[aylesburyos]

Maybe Hearn will want to sell BR. He is not getting youger & the family love a pound note. We could maybe then develop the East Stand & maybe have safe standing. The club do not want to move out of LBWF. We have fantastic transport links . 22 mins to Oxford Circus less to Liverpool St. 3 buses go from Stratford down the High Road plus Leyton Midland up the road

[Neptune's Spear]

Maybe Hearn will want to sell BR. He is not getting youger & the family love a pound note. We could maybe then develop the East Stand & maybe have safe standing. The club do not want to move out of LBWF. We have fantastic transport links . 22 mins to Oxford Circus less to Liverpool St. 3 buses go from Stratford down the High Road plus Leyton Midland up the road

You never know where you stand with Hearn owning the ground, he'd sell the land tomorrow to property developers without a second thought.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Well there seemed to be a huge site directly opposite BR which would have been perfect. But instead it’s hundreds of flats now

[Scuba Diver]

Maybe Hearn will want to sell BR. He is not getting youger & the family love a pound note. We could maybe then develop the East Stand & maybe have safe standing. The club do not want to move out of LBWF. We have fantastic transport links . 22 mins to Oxford Circus less to Liverpool St. 3 buses go from Stratford down the High Road plus Leyton Midland up the road

You never know where you stand with Hearn owning the ground, he'd sell the land tomorrow to property developers without a second thought.

I seem to recall, and please correct me anyone if I'm wrong, but wasn't there some sort of covenant put on the ground to say it had to be used for sport for x number of years..
I'm sure LOFT had some involvement in this at a time when we all were worrying Hearn would do exactly as you have suggested.

[Fisch]

Isn't the ground owned by Matchroom's pension fund?

[soloman]

Maybe Hearn will want to sell BR. He is not getting youger & the family love a pound note. We could maybe then develop the East Stand & maybe have safe standing. The club do not want to move out of LBWF. We have fantastic transport links . 22 mins to Oxford Circus less to Liverpool St. 3 buses go from Stratford down the High Road plus Leyton Midland up the road

You never know where you stand with Hearn owning the ground, he'd sell the land tomorrow to property developers without a second thought.

I seem to recall, and please correct me anyone if I'm wrong, but wasn't there some sort of covenant put on the ground to say it had to be used for sport for x number of years..
I'm sure LOFT had some involvement in this at a time when we all were worrying Hearn would do exactly as you have suggested.

Yes , I do remember that happening.

[Type high]

Maybe Hearn will want to sell BR. He is not getting youger & the family love a pound note. We could maybe then develop the East Stand & maybe have safe standing. The club do not want to move out of LBWF. We have fantastic transport links . 22 mins to Oxford Circus less to Liverpool St. 3 buses go from Stratford down the High Road plus Leyton Midland up the road

You never know where you stand with Hearn owning the ground, he'd sell the land tomorrow to property developers without a second thought.

I seem to recall, and please correct me anyone if I'm wrong, but wasn't there some sort of covenant put on the ground to say it had to be used for sport for x number of years..
I'm sure LOFT had some involvement in this at a time when we all were worrying Hearn would do exactly as you have suggested.

No need to correct you, you're right

[tuffers#1]

What happened to the ACV granted to LOFT In 2013 or 14 ? Is it still valid , was it passed onto T&T ? What did it gain from LBWF & can it be classed as a legally binding document ?

[Give it to Jabo]

What about everyone who uses the pool and track?

Yes, but this is the future of Leyton Orient we are talking about...

[spen666]

What happened to the ACV granted to LOFT In 2013 or 14 ? Is it still valid , was it passed onto T&T ? What did it gain from LBWF & can it be classed as a legally binding document ?

The site was listed as an Asset of Community Value (ACV). In reality, this does not mean as much as many people think. It was not granted to LOFT, although it was as a result of their actions it was declared an ACV. This is a legally binding thing, and affects all owners



The government have published a document about what being an ACV means. It can be found at https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 987150.pdf


An extract of part of that document states

What the provisions do not do
These provisions do not restrict in any way who the owner of a listed asset can sell his property to, or at what price. They do not confer a right of first refusal to community interest groups (unlike the Scottish scheme).
The provisions do not place any restriction on what an owner can do with their property, once listed, if it remains in their ownership. This is because it is planning policy that determines permitted uses for particular sites. However the fact that the site is listed may affect planning decisions – it is open to the Local Planning Authority to decide that listing as an asset of community value is a material consideration if an application for change of use
is submitted, considering all the circumstances of the case.

[oriboy]

Isn't the ground owned by Matchroom's pension fund?

Yes the ground was transfered to Hearn's pension fund for the same value that he got it for. We were due 50% of anything above £6m that it was valued at,
But because of Hearn transferring it to his pension fund that breaks the deal and we get zilch. Hearn would sell his soul for a fiver!

[tuffers#1]

What happened to the ACV granted to LOFT In 2013 or 14 ? Is it still valid , was it passed onto T&T ? What did it gain from LBWF & can it be classed as a legally binding document ?

The site was listed as an Asset of Community Value (ACV). In reality, this does not mean as much as many people think. It was not granted to LOFT, although it was as a result of their actions it was declared an ACV. This is a legally binding thing, and affects all owners



The government have published a document about what being an ACV means. It can be found at https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 987150.pdf


An extract of part of that document states

What the provisions do not do
These provisions do not restrict in any way who the owner of a listed asset can sell his property to, or at what price. They do not confer a right of first refusal to community interest groups (unlike the Scottish scheme).
The provisions do not place any restriction on what an owner can do with their property, once listed, if it remains in their ownership. This is because it is planning policy that determines permitted uses for particular sites. However the fact that the site is listed may affect planning decisions – it is open to the Local Planning Authority to decide that listing as an asset of community value is a material consideration if an application for change of use
is submitted, considering all the circumstances of the case.

It was LOFT Who applied for the ACV though ?