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Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:39 am
by tuffers#1
gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:53 am
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:36 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:50 pm
Yet he could possibly have the most important position in our team . Maybe we should sign another experienced midfielder before the transfer window closes .
Weve got enough midfielders if this lad joins
Enough CMs in number... only if you count kids with 0 experience
Enough CMs in quality... no
A senior pro CDM would really be a statement of intent, with one of Coleman / Brown heading out the other way (loan perhaps)
Moncur Pratley Clay
Coleman Brown Obieiro Tanga (Young out on loan)
Turner (maybe)
Big gap between the 3 starters and everything else
Statement of Intent ?
why dont we just buy himars,
park it in the
middle & take aim .
" statement of intent "
Calm down Jimmy Tarbuck .
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:42 am
by Story of O
Would a potential loan player be a trialist?
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:06 am
by Jman
Bergen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:16 am
Young loanees – last ten years
Ryan Brunt (Stoke City - on a six months loan in July 2012)
Scott Wagstaff (Charlton - on a one month loan in Oct. 2012)
Alex Smith (Fulham - on a two months loan in Nov. 2012)
Ade Azeez (Charlton - one month loan in Jan. 2013)
Jayden Stockley (Bournemouth - on a three months loan in Sept. 2013)
Frankie Sutherland (QPR - on a one month loan in Oct. 2013)
Jamie Ness (Stoke City - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Shaquile Coulthirst (Tottenham - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Jamar Loza (Norwich City - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Michael Pettrasso (QPR - on a one month loan Sept. 2014)
Jack Price (Wolves - on a three months loan in Oct. 2014)
John Lundstram (Everton - on a one month loan in Jan. 2015)
Ryan Hedges (Swansea - on a one month loan in Jan. 2015)
Joe Maguire (Liverpool - on a one month loan in Aug. 2015)
Adam Chicksen (Brighton - on a one month loan in Oct. 2015)
Cole Kpekawa (QPR - on a three months loan in Nov. 2015)
Calaum Jahraldo-Martin (Hull City - on a four-months in Jan. 2016)
Jerome Binnom-Williams (Crystal Palace - on a four-months loan in Jan. 2016)
David Gregory (Crystal Palace - on a three-months loan in Mar. 2016)
Harry Cornick (Bournemouth - on a five-months loan in July 2016)
Jordan Green (Bournemouth - on a four-months loan in Jan. 2017)
Zain Westbrooke (Brentford - on a three months loan in Oct. 2017)
Ebou Adams (Norwich - on a five months loan in Jan. 2018)
Levi Lumeka (Crystal Palace - on a season long loan in Aug. 2018)
George Marsh (Tottenham - on a four months loan in Aug. 2019)
Kazaiah Sterling (Tottenham - on a four months loan in Jan. 2020)
Jordan Thomas (Norwich City - on a season-long loan in Sept. 2020)
Olatunji Akinola (West Ham United - on a season-long loan in Oct. 2020)
Tyrese Omotoye (Norwich City - on a season-long loan in Aug. 2021)
Alex Mitchell (Millwall - on a season-long loan in Aug. 2021)
Dan Moss (Millwall - on a five months loan in Jan. 2022)
Some of them have done pretty well, but the list shows it has always been a bit of gamble to sign untested youngsters on loan.
Great work on this list. Think it’s interesting just how many have gone on to have largely mediocre careers, largely hopping around clubs at the foothills of the English/Scottish pyramids. Goes to show how difficult it is to eventually break into the top two tiers
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:07 am
by Max Fowler
Adz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:41 am
Unless we've found a way to play without needing a CDM I don't see how this kid with no experience is the answer.
It'll be two CDMs, I guess - Pratley will drop deep alongside this kid, with Smyth ahead of them.
It just limits the effectiveness of our high press when we only have the front 4 doing it, not the front 5.
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:42 am
by Stan1972
Still find it funny how boarders can write off Jack Turner because he’s a young lad before he has even kicked a ball for us.
Let the guy firstly join, then secondly play a few games, then after a few games, make your judgement.
I’m looking forward to seeing him in a Orient shirt and hope in few games time we’re all talking about what a fantastic signing he is and can we get him on a permanent deal.
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:52 am
by Petrov788
got a sneaky feeling we could end up with two midfielders this week, a more traditional DM
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:16 am
by Bergen
According to our website, Shad Ogie, played in centre-midfield yesterday. Maybe RW has a new plan.
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:21 am
by Petrov788
yeh Shad did play in Midfield, dropped deep into defence to pick up the ball. He ran the game, looked a class above anyone else. Although consider the quality of the opposition, he should have looked a class apart
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:30 am
by Adz
Stan1972 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:42 am
Still find it funny how boarders can write off Jack Turner because he’s a young lad before he has even kicked a ball for us.
Let the guy firstly join, then secondly play a few games, then after a few games, make your judgement.
I’m looking forward to seeing him in a Orient shirt and hope in few games time we’re all talking about what a fantastic signing he is and can we get him on a permanent deal.
I hope so, but in arguably the most important position it's a hell of an ask for someone who's never played before.
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:38 am
by Max Fowler
Bergen wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:16 am
According to our website, Shad Ogie, played in centre-midfield yesterday. Maybe RW has a new plan.
Nah, Shad has played more minutes than anyone else this pre-season, they know he's missing the first game of the season so just making sure he's had as many minutes as possible and is ready for match 2.
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:39 am
by Max Fowler
Petrov788 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:21 am
yeh Shad did play in Midfield, dropped deep into defence to pick up the ball. He ran the game, looked a class above anyone else. Although consider the quality of the opposition, he should have looked a class apart
A class above the lad from Southampton who is supposedly our midfield saviour as well?
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:51 am
by Stan1972
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:39 am
Petrov788 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:21 am
yeh Shad did play in Midfield, dropped deep into defence to pick up the ball. He ran the game, looked a class above anyone else. Although consider the quality of the opposition, he should have looked a class apart
A class above the lad from Southampton who is supposedly our midfield saviour as well?
GTP being as positive as ever about our new loan signing, so pathetic it’s funny
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:27 pm
by Petrov788
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:39 am
Petrov788 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:21 am
yeh Shad did play in Midfield, dropped deep into defence to pick up the ball. He ran the game, looked a class above anyone else. Although consider the quality of the opposition, he should have looked a class apart
A class above the lad from Southampton who is supposedly our midfield saviour as well?
We have no idea if he's going to be our saviour. Has anyone on the board stated that? Has anyone watched him other than 60 minutes last night? We've got to trust the scouts, Richie and the coaches on that front. The experts.
Shad has played multiple games of football with every single player on that team, last night, bar the trialists - he knows their strengths and weaknesses. He'll know for example not to play a ball to some players if they are under pressure, or he'll know he can ping a ball to the feet of a more technical player. The trialists have played with none of those players before and got 60 minutes on a bobbly pitch
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:29 am
by faith1234
No news that this man is coming to us just a rumour
Re: Jack Turner
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:58 am
by Petrov788
they could be negotiating on the terms of the loan. Might be some clauses the club doesn't want in the deal, like recall ability etc
