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Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:02 am
by Dunners
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:09 am
Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:05 am scrutiny and challenge
Damn those righties with all their scrutinising and challenging.
Not just the righties, it would seem. Even tax accountants are noticing things.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:02 am
by Proposition Joe
Considering he only deals with tax accountancy, that Neidle chap is often really interesting. Thoroughly concerned with facts and accuracy, which almost feels quaint.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 9:36 am
by Dunners
That's the problem with the left's tendency to leap to worship false gods, just because they're saying something that broadly sounds right to them. When those false gods turns out to be just that - false - it undermines the credibility of anyone and anything associated with them. And then they start blaming everyone that points out the falsehoods instead of the grifters that were taking them for fools all along.
I suspect that Dan Neidle will now be getting painted as the villain of the piece in certain quarters.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:04 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
That's the problem with the right’s tendency to leap to worship false gods, just because they're saying something that broadly sounds right to them. When those false gods turns out to be just that - false - it undermines the credibility of anyone and anything associated with them. And then they start blaming everyone that points out the falsehoods instead of the grifters that were taking them for fools all along.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:05 am
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 9:36 am
That's the problem with the left's tendency to leap to worship false gods, just because they're saying something that broadly sounds right to them. When those false gods turns out to be just that - false - it undermines the credibility of anyone and anything associated with them. And then they start blaming everyone that points out the falsehoods instead of the grifters that were taking them for fools all along.
I suspect that Dan Neidle will now be getting painted as the villain of the piece in certain quarters.
"The Left". The sweeping generalisation. The false analysis. When will this grifting stop.
Neidle is a bit like Gaz. Former cog in the wheel of the City elite having made serious money at a top law firm advising corporates etc on tax avoidance. Now likes facts. Huzzah.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:19 am
by Hoover Attack
Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:02 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:09 am
Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:05 am scrutiny and challenge
Damn those righties with all their scrutinising and challenging.
Not just the righties, it would seem. Even tax accountants are noticing things.
So what Gary meant to say was a 'New Labour loop hole'? His mistake was confusing Tories with New Labour.
Be fair, that's pretty understandable.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:23 am
by Hoover Attack
But it's only saved him something like £300k. Small change amongst the sums we should be looking at.
Questions we should be asking are how comes our elected politicians have that much wealth given the salaries they're on. And who those apartments were purchased from and if there's anything dodgy going on there.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:25 am
by Long slender neck
May have been in a previous clip but thought it was funny that Fiona didnt seem to consider herself a high earner. No awareness.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:23 am
by Hoover Attack
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:25 am
May have been in a previous clip but thought it was funny that Fiona didnt seem to consider herself a high earner. No awareness.
Compared to the Establishment people she fraternises with, she's probably right.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 12:18 pm
by Max B Gold
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:19 am
Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:02 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:09 am
Damn those righties with all their scrutinising and challenging.
Not just the righties, it would seem. Even tax accountants are noticing things.
So what Gary meant to say was a 'New Labour loop hole'? His mistake was confusing Tories with New Labour.
Be fair, that's pretty understandable.
Easy mistake to make
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:09 pm
by Hoover Attack
It is an easy mistake to make but, nevertheless, it is still a mistake. And should be called out and the perpetrator suitably punished.
It's reassuring that in these days of False Information, we have people on the case ready to pounce on such major mis-speakings. Well done to those involved.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:22 pm
by Dunners
Happy to help.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:22 pm
by Max B Gold
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:09 pm
It is an easy mistake to make but, nevertheless, it is still a mistake. And should be called out and the perpetrator suitably punished.
It's reassuring that in these days of False Information, we have people on the case ready to pounce on such major mis-speakings. Well done to those involved.
Agreed. It's almost like they are trying to deflect from his excellent points by undermining his credibility. Weird thing is even the hard left types like Dummers and Obsessoguy are getting in on the act. How can that be explained?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:32 pm
by Dunners
Damn. We've been rumbled.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:28 pm
by Hoover Attack
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:22 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:09 pm
It is an easy mistake to make but, nevertheless, it is still a mistake. And should be called out and the perpetrator suitably punished.
It's reassuring that in these days of False Information, we have people on the case ready to pounce on such major mis-speakings. Well done to those involved.
Agreed. It's almost like they are trying to deflect from his excellent points by undermining his credibility. Weird thing is even the hard left types like Dummers and Obsessoguy are getting in on the act. How can that be explained?
I'm beginning to think that Dunnem isn't as far left as he makes out. I'm not even sure he dyes his hair - I suspect that's it's naturally like that.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:48 am
by Dunners
This probably isn't the right thread for this, but something weird has happened. Owen Jones has written an article in The Guardian which I broadly agree with.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... r-leftwing
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:59 am
by Proposition Joe
Mick Lynch for PM is absolutely something I could get behind.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:12 pm
by Dunners
Jones name-checks Lynch as someone who has wider appeal and can maintain a coherent argument on economic policy without being drawn into divisive issues and culture war debates. But then the comments under the article immediately go into "what about his position on Brexit" territory, and just undermine Jones's efforts.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:22 pm
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:12 pm
Jones name-checks Lynch as someone who has wider appeal and can maintain a coherent argument on economic policy without being drawn into divisive issues and culture war debates. But then the comments under the article immediately go into "what about his position on Brexit" territory, and just undermine Jones's efforts.
There are always going to be issues where there are differences of opinion. It's not new. It’s how a political movement deals with them that counts. It doesn't undermine Jones's argument.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:36 pm
by Proposition Joe
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:12 pm
Jones name-checks Lynch as someone who has wider appeal and can maintain a coherent argument on economic policy without being drawn into divisive issues and culture war debates. But then the comments under the article immediately go into "what about his position on Brexit" territory, and just undermine Jones's efforts.
Because the Guardian BTL crew just aren't serious people.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:43 pm
by faldO
A Labour MP has been arrested on suspicion of rape and child sex offences.
Dan Norris, a former minister and the serving MP for North East Somerset, was arrested and taken into custody after police raided his constituency home on Friday.
Mr Norris, who previously worked as a teacher and child protection officer, has been immediately suspended from the Labour Party pending the outcome of the police investigation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx48gq0y77o
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:42 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:16 pm
by Bandy Legs
I was hoping someone posted this economy growth news story.
Shambles indeed
Can't wait to read the expert opinion of Dohnut on this
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:57 am
by George M
Labour to nationalise British steel despite it losing £700,000 a day. Not great business.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:00 am
by Max B Gold
George M wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:57 am
Labour to nationalise British steel despite it losing £700,000 a day. Not great business.
Good news for the workers.
Another failed Thatcherite privatisation. Let's hope its water next then the trains and then another 200 top companies.
