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Other countries are simply protecting there people
Utter B*LLOCKS !George wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:42 pm Everyone who has COVID when they die in the UK is classed as a COVID death. It matters not if it was COVID that killed them. That’s what the official figures will show.
Uk 144k , Italy 133k , France 120k , Germany 100k deaths. All countries have struggled to contain COVID , some much larger than the UK yet with similar populations.
Until this is over , and hopefully it will be soon , any silly party point scoring over total deaths should cease.
I agree Tuffers. COVID positive in the previous 28 days. I don’t like using personal stories to back up facts , but I will in this case. My mother in law was in a home at the height of COVID in 2019 . Despite not being tested , she died and COVID was listed as the cause of death. She had dementia and visiting restrictions meant that she could not see her family. She was 86 and locked in her room. She simply gave up on life and died of loneliness. She won’t be the only case where COVID was used as cause of deathtuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:26 amUtter B*LLOCKS !George wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:42 pm Everyone who has COVID when they die in the UK is classed as a COVID death. It matters not if it was COVID that killed them. That’s what the official figures will show.
Uk 144k , Italy 133k , France 120k , Germany 100k deaths. All countries have struggled to contain COVID , some much larger than the UK yet with similar populations.
Until this is over , and hopefully it will be soon , any silly party point scoring over total deaths should cease.
every recorded Death of the 140,00 +
is the result of those who had a positive test in the 28 days previously .
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... sitivetest
The daily COVID deaths counts reported on the government's COVID-19
dashboard (produced by PHE) shows deaths within 28 days of a
first positive laboratory-confirmed test. .
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
Deaths in United Kingdom
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Latest available data
Deaths within 28 days of positive test
Daily
147Value: 147 — Abstract information: Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test, reported on Thursday, 25 November 2021.
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Total
144,433
There arr thousands who died after.28.days not on the list
No. I can blame this government for mistakes that were made at times through this Pandemic. But I can also offer praise where it is due. And some praise is due. What I won’t do is blame them for the spread of COVID.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:28 pmAlmost two years in and we still can’t level any blame at the government? Right oh.George wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:42 pm Everyone who has COVID when they die in the UK is classed as a COVID death. It matters not if it was COVID that killed them. That’s what the official figures will show.
Uk 144k , Italy 133k , France 120k , Germany 100k deaths. All countries have struggled to contain COVID , some much larger than the UK yet with similar populations.
Until this is over , and hopefully it will be soon , any silly party point scoring over total deaths should cease.
Thank you. I will take that and continue to try to improveMax B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:17 pmI'm not easily impressed but after those compliments I'm going to take you off foe for a bit and see how it goes. A sort of pay as you foe.
A sad event ,George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:20 amI agree Tuffers. COVID positive in the previous 28 days. I don’t like using personal stories to back up facts , but I will in this case. My mother in law was in a home at the height of COVID in 2019 . Despite not being tested , she died and COVID was listed as the cause of death. She had dementia and visiting restrictions meant that she could not see her family. She was 86 and locked in her room. She simply gave up on life and died of loneliness. She won’t be the only case where COVID was used as cause of deathtuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:26 amUtter B*LLOCKS !George wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:42 pm Everyone who has COVID when they die in the UK is classed as a COVID death. It matters not if it was COVID that killed them. That’s what the official figures will show.
Uk 144k , Italy 133k , France 120k , Germany 100k deaths. All countries have struggled to contain COVID , some much larger than the UK yet with similar populations.
Until this is over , and hopefully it will be soon , any silly party point scoring over total deaths should cease.
every recorded Death of the 140,00 +
is the result of those who had a positive test in the 28 days previously .
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... sitivetest
The daily COVID deaths counts reported on the government's COVID-19
dashboard (produced by PHE) shows deaths within 28 days of a
first positive laboratory-confirmed test. .
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
Deaths in United Kingdom
Click to open the localisation banner, which provides options to switch location and receive data at different geographical levels.
Click to change location
Latest available data
Deaths within 28 days of positive test
Daily
147Value: 147 — Abstract information: Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test, reported on Thursday, 25 November 2021.
Click for additional details.
Total
144,433
There arr thousands who died after.28.days not on the list
Thanks Tuffers. Yes , 2020tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:32 amA sad event ,George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:20 amI agree Tuffers. COVID positive in the previous 28 days. I don’t like using personal stories to back up facts , but I will in this case. My mother in law was in a home at the height of COVID in 2019 . Despite not being tested , she died and COVID was listed as the cause of death. She had dementia and visiting restrictions meant that she could not see her family. She was 86 and locked in her room. She simply gave up on life and died of loneliness. She won’t be the only case where COVID was used as cause of deathtuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:26 am
Utter B*LLOCKS !
every recorded Death of the 140,00 +
is the result of those who had a positive test in the 28 days previously .
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... sitivetest
The daily COVID deaths counts reported on the government's COVID-19
dashboard (produced by PHE) shows deaths within 28 days of a
first positive laboratory-confirmed test. .
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
Deaths in United Kingdom
Click to open the localisation banner, which provides options to switch location and receive data at different geographical levels.
Click to change location
Latest available data
Deaths within 28 days of positive test
Daily
147Value: 147 — Abstract information: Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test, reported on Thursday, 25 November 2021.
Click for additional details.
Total
144,433
There arr thousands who died after.28.days not on the list
However your story proves that your earlier comment about all
Who die of covid in the uk is classed as a Covid death .
Plenty like your Mother in Law who werent tested & plenty of others who would have
spent more than a month in a coma ( after 28 day tests ) are NOT INCLUDED in the
UK governments figures .
They were when we were behind Italy & Spain in early 2020.
Then when the UK went top of the death lists , we woke up one
day & the figure had miraculously dropped from 60,000 to 48,000 .
More likely to be close on 200k dead & not the reported 145 k
I wondered at 1st if these people had come back to life.
Then i learnt it was manipulation of figures by the Story Party .
I assume your Mother in Law died of covid in 2020 & not 2019 as you stated .
Either way may she Rest in Peace.
Its been a long 20 months so understandableGeorge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:03 amThanks Tuffers. Yes , 2020tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:32 amA sad event ,George wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:20 am
I agree Tuffers. COVID positive in the previous 28 days. I don’t like using personal stories to back up facts , but I will in this case. My mother in law was in a home at the height of COVID in 2019 . Despite not being tested , she died and COVID was listed as the cause of death. She had dementia and visiting restrictions meant that she could not see her family. She was 86 and locked in her room. She simply gave up on life and died of loneliness. She won’t be the only case where COVID was used as cause of death
However your story proves that your earlier comment about all
Who die of covid in the uk is classed as a Covid death .
Plenty like your Mother in Law who werent tested & plenty of others who would have
spent more than a month in a coma ( after 28 day tests ) are NOT INCLUDED in the
UK governments figures .
They were when we were behind Italy & Spain in early 2020.
Then when the UK went top of the death lists , we woke up one
day & the figure had miraculously dropped from 60,000 to 48,000 .
More likely to be close on 200k dead & not the reported 145 k
I wondered at 1st if these people had come back to life.
Then i learnt it was manipulation of figures by the Story Party .
I assume your Mother in Law died of covid in 2020 & not 2019 as you stated .
Either way may she Rest in Peace.
I think so, but across a relatively low number of samples. Therefore the true picture will emerge over the next couple of weeks. I'm not religious, but I'm tempted to start praying that this is a false alarm, because if it isn't...Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:14 amIs this saying that around 10 days after it emerged, it accounted for 90% of cases in south africa?
Yeah, probably best we hold fire for now and do nothing and see how it works out.Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:41 pm Yep, I'm on board with that. If I was to summarise what I understand about this variant so far, it's this:
It's definitely not good, as all the sources I trust to be proportionate are concerned by this more than numerous other variants that have emerged. But it's still too early to say if it looks bad, or really is bad. So, there's still hope.
Totally agree. I've been calling for face coverings to be brought back for several weeks now, but I fear a lot will just not follow the guidance.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:34 pm Face coverings to become mandatory in shops and on public transport again.
Good.