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Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:05 pm
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:00 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:51 pm
Dunners wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:36 pm Wasn't Putin still undecided back in those days? I thought he only went full-on anti-West about 2007.
Is this some sort of guessing game now?

He's always been anti West all year way back to his days in the KGB/Station in East Germany in the 80s.
I mean't; Wasn't he still pretending to be open to closer alignment then? Or even still contemplating which direction was in his best interest?

I'm not as much of a Putin expert as you. I'm still early into Belton's book, as there's a lot of words.
Don't worry too much about Belton just keep c&ping from your other "sources"

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:14 pm
by Max B Gold
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:02 pm BBC pulling their reporting from Russia because of new laws against independent journalism

Another victim of NATO expansion :(
The Tories are going to go effing mental when they hear about a far right wingnut interfering with independent journalism at the BBC.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:21 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:14 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:02 pm BBC pulling their reporting from Russia because of new laws against independent journalism

Another victim of NATO expansion :(
The Tories are going to go effing mental when they hear about a far right wingnut interfering with independent journalism at the BBC.
Thanks for the whatabouterry

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:41 pm
by Max B Gold
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:21 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:14 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:02 pm BBC pulling their reporting from Russia because of new laws against independent journalism

Another victim of NATO expansion :(
The Tories are going to go effing mental when they hear about a far right wingnut interfering with independent journalism at the BBC.
Thanks for the whatabouterry
Nae bother.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 7:43 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Dunners wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:20 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:15 pm
Dunners wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:04 pm

It's a shame you have to watch us heavyweights going at it, whilst remaining on the unused subs bench along with Comeupyourarse. Still, at least you can reminisce about when you were a good at boardin'.
Even in my prime, I wouldn’t have been able to engage in such debate.

I could have sniped from the sidelines much more efficiently, however.
Effectively. The word you're looking for is effectively, you imbecile.

No I meant efficiently. In, 1 sarky post, out. None of this backwards and forwards, responding to insults, wasting my precious time.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:20 am
by Dunners
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 7:43 am
Dunners wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:20 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:15 pm

Even in my prime, I wouldn’t have been able to engage in such debate.

I could have sniped from the sidelines much more efficiently, however.
Effectively. The word you're looking for is effectively, you imbecile.

No I meant efficiently. In, 1 sarky post, out. None of this backwards and forwards, responding to insults, wasting my precious time.
Fair enough. I accept that said boardin' style has its place, just as much as arguing endlessly to a point of tedium even when I don't necessarily disagree. But these are the paths we must choose.

I just remember when your sarky posts were also effective. Back when you could adopt a contrarian position, irrespective of your own personal beliefs, and challenge others to question themselves. There was a time when it wouldn't have been left to the likes of me to do the heavy lifting on threads such as Woke Watch.

I believe that border is still in there. Just waiting to rediscover their purpose and regain past glories. All it requires is the will, a boardin' training montage and a suitably inspiring theme tune.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:03 am
by Nice Username
And a Boardin' Device to provide accurate measurements.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:12 pm
by StockholmO

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:36 pm
by E10EU
Johnson loves mingling with the Russian wealthy elite and celebrated his 2019 electoral victory in that company.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... peoples-pm

He also elevated Lebedev to the House of Lords, against the advice from MI5 and MI6, having enjoyed parties with Lebedev for some years:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ugia-party

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:46 pm
by BoniO
Which might go a long way to explain why the UK is lagging behind the rest of the World in freezing the assets of wealthy Russians. Who'd have thought it eh.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:01 pm
by Long slender neck
Call his bluff and stand up to him. He can't take on the whole world.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:33 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
BoniO wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:46 pm Which might go a long way to explain why the UK is lagging behind the rest of the World in freezing the assets of wealthy Russians. Who'd have thought it eh.
I think we’re up to 10 Russians sanctioned now, plus Helena Bonham Carters brother.

Take that, Putin!

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:37 pm
by BIGRON
Long slender neck wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:01 pm Call his bluff and stand up to him. He can't take on the whole world.
Maybe ha can't, but he could wipe London out with the press of a button being the mad b*stard he is .

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:39 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
If the max b*stard should do the unthinkable, couldn’t we fire one of our nukes at one of his nukes and explode it somewhere over mainland Europe?

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:52 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
BIGRON wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:37 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:01 pm Call his bluff and stand up to him. He can't take on the whole world.
Maybe ha can't, but he could wipe London out with the press of a button being the mad b*stard he is .
I bet London would be the first place to get hit .I think we would get hit even before the Americans .

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:39 pm
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:52 pm
BIGRON wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:37 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:01 pm Call his bluff and stand up to him. He can't take on the whole world.
Maybe ha can't, but he could wipe London out with the press of a button being the mad b*stard he is .
I bet London would be the first place to get hit .I think we would get hit even before the Americans .
What worries you More

London getting hit
Leyton Orient getting relegated

Which are you more worried will happen 1st ?

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:06 pm
by BIGRON
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:39 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:52 pm
BIGRON wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:37 pm

Maybe ha can't, but he could wipe London out with the press of a button being the mad b*stard he is .
I bet London would be the first place to get hit .I think we would get hit even before the Americans .
What worries you More

London getting hit
Leyton Orient getting relegated

Which are you more worried will happen 1st ?
Leyton Orient could always come back from being relegated , no way back from a nuclear attack , yes I'm more worried about the events of the war at the moment ☹

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:33 pm
by tuffers#1
BIGRON wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:06 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:39 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:52 pm

I bet London would be the first place to get hit .I think we would get hit even before the Americans .
What worries you More

London getting hit
Leyton Orient getting relegated

Which are you more worried will happen 1st ?
Leyton Orient could always come back from being relegated , no way back from a nuclear attack , yes I'm more worried about the events of the war at the moment ☹
He seems to be demolishing ukraine without Nukes
What makes you think he would be sending them.

Or are you just illustrating further pessimism ?

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:58 am
by RedDwarf 1881
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:33 pm
BIGRON wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:06 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:39 pm

What worries you More

London getting hit
Leyton Orient getting relegated

Which are you more worried will happen 1st ?
Leyton Orient could always come back from being relegated , no way back from a nuclear attack , yes I'm more worried about the events of the war at the moment ☹
He seems to be demolishing ukraine without Nukes
What makes you think he would be sending them.

Or are you just illustrating further pessimism ?
Maybe its because Putin has said he's put his nuclear forces on high alert .

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 2:29 am
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:58 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:33 pm
BIGRON wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:06 pm

Leyton Orient could always come back from being relegated , no way back from a nuclear attack , yes I'm more worried about the events of the war at the moment ☹
He seems to be demolishing ukraine without Nukes
What makes you think he would be sending them.

Or are you just illustrating further pessimism ?
Maybe its because Putin has said he's put his nuclear forces on high alert .
Again Pessimism
Not just with Orient then

He slammed Chechnya.without nukes
Same in Syria , In fact the Ruskies have never dropped a nuke in
War time , so i can see where the pessimism comes from .

Because the west have then they will

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:26 am
by faldO
E10EU wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:36 pm Johnson loves mingling with the Russian wealthy elite and celebrated his 2019 electoral victory in that company.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... peoples-pm

He also elevated Lebedev to the House of Lords, against the advice from MI5 and MI6, having enjoyed parties with Lebedev for some years:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ugia-party
Excellent!

Harrowing pictures on the BBC evening news yesterday of whole families killed by Russian bombs fleeing through so-called "safe" corridors and you're pulling up old Guardian articles from 3 years ago.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:30 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
faldO wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:26 am
E10EU wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:36 pm Johnson loves mingling with the Russian wealthy elite and celebrated his 2019 electoral victory in that company.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... peoples-pm

He also elevated Lebedev to the House of Lords, against the advice from MI5 and MI6, having enjoyed parties with Lebedev for some years:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ugia-party
Excellent!

Harrowing pictures on the BBC evening news yesterday of whole families killed by Russian bombs fleeing through so-called "safe" corridors and you're pulling up old Guardian articles from 3 years ago.
When would be a relevant time to mention this Governments links to Russia?

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:48 am
by Dunners
Yeah, if we're going to call out some on the loony-left for allowing themselves to be influenced into useful idiots, we must challenge the corruptible right who were happy to accept ill-gotten gains. And the latter is far more insidious and damaging to our national security. Nobody can claim to by surprised that Oligarch wealth is connected to the Putin regime.

Johnson has serious questions to answer in respect of Lebedev.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:07 pm
by Long slender neck
I'm sure he'll answer them in his usual manner.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:10 pm
by Dunners
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