Adz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:12 am
What's the odds this stuff has been pieced together from previous elections, or is completely fabricated?
Greater than 99%, I'd say.
In April 2020, a 20-year voter fraud study by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.00006 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.000004 percent — about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning in the United States". Even if voter fraud in this election were somehow 10 times more prevalent than the previous 20 years, which is highly unlikely, that's still only 0.0006%, which of around 146m votes is fewer than 900 votes. Across the whole country.
Even when Trump set up a commission into voter fraud, put the Vice-President in charge, and gave it majority Republican members, it had to disband as soon as a federal judge ruled it should share its workings with the Democrat members as well as Republicans. There simply wasn't the evidence.
Just last month, Republican election lawyer Benjamin Ginsberg wrote: "I spent four decades in the Republican trenches, representing GOP presidential and congressional campaigns, working on Election Day operations, recounts, redistricting and other issues... The truth is that over all those years Republicans found only isolated incidents of fraud. Proof of systematic fraud has become the Loch Ness Monster of the Republican Party. People have spent a lot of time looking for it, but it doesn't exist."
People can share and spread whatever "proof" videos and clickbait they like. The reality is that every time the cold light of fact and truth is shone on them, they melt away.
Joe Biden will be the 46th President of the United States. Donald Trump lost. Get over it.
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:47 am
by PoliticOs
But they don't want to believe that, so they just simply won't.
I'd guess there would be more fraud in this election with so many more voting. I think they may even get a headline of 'twice as much!' (but as you say, the numbers are outrageously low) - but they never seem to acknowledge that if we went entirely all in on in person voting, the amount of disenfranchised people would be huge. They talk about it as if it is in the millions. It isn't. A low three figure number of fraudulent ballots is more democratic than MILLIONS unable to vote. Which do they want? Oh, yeah. I remember now.
*I'd try to convince them not letting the elderly, the vulnerable or the disabled vote is bad, but that won't swing it in their careometer. So I'd remind them; many in the military, people they salute and thank for their service, would also miss out. That'll do it.
Adz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:12 am
What's the odds this stuff has been pieced together from previous elections, or is completely fabricated?
Greater than 99%, I'd say.
In April 2020, a 20-year voter fraud study by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.00006 percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.000004 percent — about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning in the United States". Even if voter fraud in this election were somehow 10 times more prevalent than the previous 20 years, which is highly unlikely, that's still only 0.0006%, which of around 146m votes is fewer than 900 votes. Across the whole country.
Even when Trump set up a commission into voter fraud, put the Vice-President in charge, and gave it majority Republican members, it had to disband as soon as a federal judge ruled it should share its workings with the Democrat members as well as Republicans. There simply wasn't the evidence.
Just last month, Republican election lawyer Benjamin Ginsberg wrote: "I spent four decades in the Republican trenches, representing GOP presidential and congressional campaigns, working on Election Day operations, recounts, redistricting and other issues... The truth is that over all those years Republicans found only isolated incidents of fraud. Proof of systematic fraud has become the Loch Ness Monster of the Republican Party. People have spent a lot of time looking for it, but it doesn't exist."
People can share and spread whatever "proof" videos and clickbait they like. The reality is that every time the cold light of fact and truth is shone on them, they melt away.
Joe Biden will be the 46th President of the United States. Donald Trump lost. Get over it.
I'm not having that.
That Ginsberg fellow needs to shut his big fat mouth about the Loch Ness monster not existing
Thousands of jobs in the Scotch tourist industry are at stake.
Hang about, you've actually started to win me over with this idea.
Are you suggesting Donald J Trump's presidency may actually be illegal and that he actually may well have got in through voter fraud himself?
It's interesting because he was WELL behind in the polls then out of nowhere got a shock win? Seems suspicious to me...
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:04 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
And you're so desperate for it not to be true , aren't you . What's the matter , are you starting to worry ? Actually , to be fair you're not the only leftie on here who appears to be worrying .
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:07 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:08 pm
by StillSpike
So, not able (or willing) to answer the one about the other 2 parts to the election. Righto.
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:11 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
StillSpike wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:08 pm
So, not able (or willing) to answer the one about the other 2 parts to the election. Righto.
I don't know ,Why did't anybody bother checking the ballots then in that case . It could have been challenged like the Republicans are doing now .
And you're so desperate for it not to be true , aren't you . What's the matter , are you starting to worry ? Actually , to be fair you're not the only leftie on here who appears to be worrying .
Well, it's not RednecksRus.com but not much better.
NTD is a cable channel created to broadcast mainly anti-communist programmes back into mainland China. It's owned by the "Falun Gong new religious movement" - oh them........... It now broadcasts in other languages but remains totally anti-communist and pro-Trump.
Please give up Dwarfy, you're just embarrassing yourself.
Ruptly GmbH is a Russian state-backed video news agency specializing in video on demand, based in Berlin, Germany. It is a subsidiary of the RT (formerly Russia Today) news network.
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:21 pm
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:04 pm
Actually , to be fair you're not the only leftie on here who appears to be worrying .
No LEFTIES are worrying on here.
Trumpy wumpy Lost .
Job done
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:23 pm
by Long slender neck
Whats wrong with just waiting to see what evidence they come up with and how it plays in court?
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:32 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:23 pm
Whats wrong with just waiting to see what evidence they come up with and how it plays in court?
Because political opponents must be DESTROYED on online message forum
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:22 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
I absolutely guarantee that on Jan20th next year, Joe Biden will become 46th POTUS
All this legal bollocks will come to nothing, because its utter bollocks.
Trump is a bad bad loser, but he will be out, and the world will move on.
As a side issue, I wouldn't be surprised if Melania, divorces the creep too......how can any woman bear a vile monster like Trump to even touch her ughhh
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:26 pm
by Max B Gold
StillSpike wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:56 am
So, so desperate for it to be true, aren't you?
Riddle me this, then. IF the dems were able and willing to commit electoral fraud - why didn't they win the Senate and House votes ?
Is the answer to camouflage the real result so that you can come on here and defend it with riddles?
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:45 pm
by tuffers#1
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:48 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
StillSpike wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:56 am
So, so desperate for it to be true, aren't you?
Riddle me this, then. IF the dems were able and willing to commit electoral fraud - why didn't they win the Senate and House votes ?
The Democrats still might win the Senate. There’s still two seats to be contested in Georgia. And on your other point, from the report I watched online last night they were saying tens of thousands of ballots only had one name on it, Biden. Make of that what you will.
Re: U.S Election
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:54 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
From a newspaper article I read this morning it was saying American still want’s a trade deal with the UK . I hope that’s right anyway. It went on to say the Democrats can’t proceed until this election mess is sorted out.
