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Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:57 am
by Story of O
Would far right fascists want a leader of colour?
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:04 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Oh Story of Ovens!
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:05 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:55 am
A truly inspirational moment for black women in the UK.
From Diane Abbott to her, true first time trailblazers!
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:23 pm
by Qin
Two very right wing candidates, & the slightly less right wing one won.
Only 41% of the Tory members voted for her, so I would say they're not too convinced
I think Starmer might be smiling a lot today
To be elected again, the Tories need to move back to the centre ground, because apart from the racist, flag shagging few, most of the electorate prefer their politics not too extreme. A lesson not learned, I would say
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:35 pm
by Orient_Man_And_Boy
She will not be the next PM.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:42 pm
by faldO
Probably right, the likelihood of Starmer lasting another 4 and a half years is virtually zero.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:31 pm
by Long slender neck
Is that a threat?
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:37 pm
by Hoover Attack
Qin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:23 pm
Two very right wing candidates, & the slightly less right wing one won.
Only 41% of the Tory members voted for her, so I would say they're not too convinced
I think Starmer might be smiling a lot today
To be elected again, the Tories need to move back to the centre ground, because apart from the racist, flag shagging few, most of the electorate prefer their politics not too extreme. A lesson not learned, I would say
That’s not true.
They need to win back the ex Tory voters that buggered off to Reform. Going further to the right might achieve that. (Which is the whole purpose of Reform anyway).
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:47 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Qin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:23 pm
Two very right wing candidates, & the slightly less right wing one won.
Only 41% of the Tory members voted for her, so I would say they're not too convinced
I think Starmer might be smiling a lot today
To be elected again, the Tories need to move back to the centre ground, because apart from the racist, flag shagging few, most of the electorate prefer their politics not too extreme. A lesson not learned, I would say
Typical racist flag shaggers voting in a lady of Nigerian descent
Classic bigoted behaviour
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:52 pm
by Long slender neck
I guess Tory values are
Selfishness
Being wealthy
Then racism at #3
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:17 pm
by faldO
...most of the racism directed at Kemi so far has come from the left (Dawn Butler for example).
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:21 pm
by Hoover Attack
faldO wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:17 pm
...most of the racism directed at Kemi so far has come from the left (Dawn Butler for example).
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:49 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Next up Trans
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:27 pm
by faldO
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:21 pm
faldO wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:17 pm
...most of the racism directed at Kemi so far has come from the left (Dawn Butler for example).
Not sure why describing Kemi as "representing white supremacy in blackface" is funny but I guess you've seen something in it...
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:40 pm
by Hoover Attack
faldO wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:27 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:21 pm
faldO wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:17 pm
...most of the racism directed at Kemi so far has come from the left (Dawn Butler for example).
Not sure why describing Kemi as "representing white supremacy in blackface" is funny but I guess you've seen something in it...
I find an old white man (apologies if I’ve assumed wrong) telling a black woman she’s being racist to another black woman funny, yes.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:58 pm
by Dohnut
Qin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:23 pm
Two very right wing candidates, & the slightly less right wing one won.
Only 41% of the Tory members voted for her, so I would say they're not too convinced
I think Starmer might be smiling a lot today
To be elected again, the Tories need to move back to the centre ground, because apart from the racist, flag shagging few, most of the electorate prefer their politics not too extreme. A lesson not learned, I would say
What % voted for Starmer at the GE? 31%. 41% looks good
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:10 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:40 pm
faldO wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:27 pm
Not sure why describing Kemi as "" is funny but I guess you've seen something in it...
I find an old white man (apologies if I’ve assumed wrong) telling a black woman she’s being racist to another black woman funny, yes.
Out of interest and I doubt I’ll get a serious answer.
If Starmer had said Kemi Badenoch was “representing white supremacy in blackface”, would you consider that a racist comment?
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:15 pm
by Qin
22nd
Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:58 pm
Qin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:23 pm
Two very right wing candidates, & the slightly less right wing one won.
Only 41% of the Tory members voted for her, so I would say they're not too convinced
I think Starmer might be smiling a lot today
To be elected again, the Tories need to move back to the centre ground, because apart from the racist, flag shagging few, most of the electorate prefer their politics not too extreme. A lesson not learned, I would say
What % voted for Starmer at the GE? 31%. 41% looks good
The Tory party leadership was a2 horse race
41% in a 2 horse race isn't too good
Starmer had at least 4 other parties, and a ton of independents against him
Remember, almost 60% of the Tory members didn't want kemi, in a2 horse race
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:29 pm
by Hoover Attack
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:10 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:40 pm
faldO wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:27 pm
Not sure why describing Kemi as "" is funny but I guess you've seen something in it...
I find an old white man (apologies if I’ve assumed wrong) telling a black woman she’s being racist to another black woman funny, yes.
Out of interest and I doubt I’ll get a serious answer.
If Starmer had said Kemi Badenoch was “representing white supremacy in blackface”, would you consider that a racist comment?
Is What If a subset of What About or a totally different category of deflection?
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:35 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Yeah, as I thought
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:25 am
by Orient_Man_And_Boy
Hodges’ arguments are irrelevant.
The ‘winner’ for any position should be the person who is considered to have the best attributes for the job.
In this instance my constituency MP is not the right selection IMO.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:00 am
by Dunners
Quite right, James.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:05 am
by Orient_Man_And_Boy
Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:00 am
Quite right, James.
If this is a reference to SKS then it is racist by the MP for Braintree?
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:10 am
by one o in huntingdon
Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:00 am
Quite right, James.
He so wanted a change from male leadership that he fell on his sword and surrendered his votes.
Yeah right, male, fail and stale sum him up very nicely.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:13 am
by faldO
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:40 pm
faldO wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:27 pm
Not sure why describing Kemi as "representing white supremacy in blackface" is funny but I guess you've seen something in it...
I find an old white man (apologies if I’ve assumed wrong) telling a black woman she’s being racist to another black woman funny, yes.
So racism cannot be called out (or, in my case, reported on, I'm not telling anyone anything), because I "might" be the wrong colour to do so.
The bizarre and perverted world of identity politics.