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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:22 am
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:07 am We know the vaccine works. You only need to look to Russia for evidence. Low vaccine uptake , 1000 deaths a day again.
We don’t need a lockdown. We need 100% vaccine uptake and boosters.
Low vaccine uptake ?
99,382,776 vaccinations have been given in Russia .
94.9 million have been given in the uk

Russia population 144 million
uk population 68 millian

land mass area of russia 17.13 million km²
oand mass area of uk 242,495 km²

You are hardly comparing like for like are you .
I seem to remember you not liking it when the death rates were
high in the uk & people comparing lower death rates of other countries .

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:23 am
by Dunners
Moscow is shutting down all non-essential services for a 10 day period from the 28th October.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:41 am
by Mistadobalina
Ornchurch wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:57 am Surprisingly it is following the same pattern as last year with an increase in cases as the weather gets colder.
Who’d have thought it with a virus? It’s like why flu cases rise during the colder months and we have flu jabs in the autumn. Funnily enough there has also been an increase in the number of people having colds recently as well as people are more in contact with each other.

It’s time for personal responsibility. Wear a mask if you want to. Have the booster if you want to. Have the flu jab if you want to. Keep your public journeys to a minimum if you want to. Just stop moaning about what other people are doing as it will do nothing to change their behaviour.
I don't think viruses really care if people are taking personal responsibility or not, and that's why it's a stupid public health response. The actions of an idiot have a direct impact of loads of others who have done the right thing.

Israel already showed the way with their booster programme, there is no excuse for how much the government is ballsing this one up. Once again their complacency is going to cost thousands of lives. And once again the cap doffers will say mustn't grumble, something something Corbyn.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:53 am
by Currywurst and Chips

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am
by George M
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:22 am
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:07 am We know the vaccine works. You only need to look to Russia for evidence. Low vaccine uptake , 1000 deaths a day again.
We don’t need a lockdown. We need 100% vaccine uptake and boosters.
Low vaccine uptake ?
99,382,776 vaccinations have been given in Russia .
94.9 million have been given in the uk

Russia population 144 million
uk population 68 millian

land mass area of russia 17.13 million km²
oand mass area of uk 242,495 km²

You are hardly comparing like for like are you .
I seem to remember you not liking it when the death rates were
high in the uk & people comparing lower death rates of other countries .
Perhaps you have a better explanation for the 1000 deaths a day

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am
by George M
In fact your figures prove my point. Double the population yet similar vaccination figures. Don’t really get your point. My dislike of comparisons with other countries are for many reasons , and mostly referring to case numbers. But when the Kremlin blame high death rates on low vaccine uptake , you should probably listen

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:54 am
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am In fact your figures prove my point. Double the population yet similar vaccination figures. Don’t really get your point. My dislike of comparisons with other countries are for many reasons , and mostly referring to case numbers. But when the Kremlin blame high death rates on low vaccine uptake , you should probably listen
Russian Population More than double the population of the uk
but less than double the covid deaths .

uk pop 68 million
covid deaths 139000
russian population 144 million
covid deaths 223000 .

Less than double uk deaths
but with over double the population .

rather bad showing by the uk really
are you sure they prove your point ?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:10 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:22 am land mass area of russia 17.13 million km²
oand mass area of uk 242,495 km²
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:54 am Less than double uk deaths
but with over double the population .

Wonder what it could be

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:18 pm
by Max B Gold
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:10 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:22 am land mass area of russia 17.13 million km²
oand mass area of uk 242,495 km²
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:54 am Less than double uk deaths
but with over double the population .

Wonder what it could be
A crude statistic. Urbanisation in UK 83% Russia 75%.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:31 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Thanks for furthering my point

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:42 pm
by George M
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:54 am
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am In fact your figures prove my point. Double the population yet similar vaccination figures. Don’t really get your point. My dislike of comparisons with other countries are for many reasons , and mostly referring to case numbers. But when the Kremlin blame high death rates on low vaccine uptake , you should probably listen
Russian Population More than double the population of the uk
but less than double the covid deaths .

uk pop 68 million
covid deaths 139000
russian population 144 million
covid deaths 223000 .

Less than double uk deaths
but with over double the population .

rather bad showing by the uk really
are you sure they prove your point ?
32% of Russians double vaccinated only . Uk has 67% . Russia has 1000+ deaths a day , UK under 150 . What bit don't you get

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:44 pm
by George M
And i believe that it is widely accepted that Russian Death numbers are grossly underestimated. Last i saw there were around 750,000 excess deaths.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:32 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:42 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:54 am
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am In fact your figures prove my point. Double the population yet similar vaccination figures. Don’t really get your point. My dislike of comparisons with other countries are for many reasons , and mostly referring to case numbers. But when the Kremlin blame high death rates on low vaccine uptake , you should probably listen
Russian Population More than double the population of the uk
but less than double the covid deaths .

uk pop 68 million
covid deaths 139000
russian population 144 million
covid deaths 223000 .

Less than double uk deaths
but with over double the population .

rather bad showing by the uk really
are you sure they prove your point ?
32% of Russians double vaccinated only . Uk has 67% . Russia has 1000+ deaths a day , UK under 150 . What bit don't you get
Highest uk death day rate was 1800+ .
what makes you think i dont get something ?

You started comparing the uk to Russia

Spain only had 20 deaths .
Now do you get the point

Highest double vaccination in the world is spain
20 covid deaths

France 1 % less double vaccinated against covid than the uk
35 deaths .

UK double the deaths of Spain & France put together .

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:44 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:44 pm And i believe that it is widely accepted that Russian Death numbers are grossly underestimated. Last i saw there were around 750,000 excess deaths.
:lol: :lol:

Thor
stop with your comparisons with chinese
mobile phone bills to whatever you think
youve seen with regards to Russia

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:55 pm
by Ornchurch
Mistadobalina wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:41 am
I don't think viruses really care if people are taking personal responsibility or not, and that's why it's a stupid public health response. The actions of an idiot have a direct impact of loads of others who have done the right thing.
Of course viruses don’t care but neither do the majority of people in this country now, especially the younger generations.

There is no point in getting wound up by people who “haven’t done the right thing” as giving them them a stern look isn’t going to make them put a mask on for example and it isn’t worth getting in to a confrontation over given the rise in knife crime and the fact that life is so cheap at the moment. We really are in a f*** you generation.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:02 pm
by George M
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:44 pm
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:44 pm And i believe that it is widely accepted that Russian Death numbers are grossly underestimated. Last i saw there were around 750,000 excess deaths.
:lol: :lol:

Thor
stop with your comparisons with chinese
mobile phone bills to whatever you think
youve seen with regards to Russia

The Moscow Times
Support The Moscow Times!
CONTRIBUTE TODAY
Russia’s Coronavirus Excess Death Toll Hits 660K

Try again Tuffers

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:07 pm
by BoniO
Christ, George could bore for England.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:08 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:02 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:44 pm
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:44 pm And i believe that it is widely accepted that Russian Death numbers are grossly underestimated. Last i saw there were around 750,000 excess deaths.
:lol: :lol:

Thor
stop with your comparisons with chinese
mobile phone bills to whatever you think
youve seen with regards to Russia

The Moscow Times
Support The Moscow Times!
CONTRIBUTE TODAY
Russia’s Coronavirus Excess Death Toll Hits 660K

Try again Tuffers
Link please
🤣🤣🤣

Just so you know
Russia only counts deaths that are directly recorded as a covid death.
Not as a stroke a month after or 2 months etc .

A bit like the uk only records
deaths that have been after a positive covid test
in the last 28 days

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:09 pm
by tuffers#1
BoniO wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:07 pm Christ, George could bore for England.
Nah
what he is trting to do Bones is
pretend he is Thor
when really he is Max
🤣🤣

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:24 pm
by George M
Moscow Times . Free on the internet . Sparring over for another day. The pub is calling

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:25 pm
by Max B Gold
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:31 pm Thanks for furthering my point
Nae bother pal. I wasn't arguing btw.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:26 pm
by George M
BoniO wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:07 pm Christ, George could bore for England.
If " to bore " equals " to be correct " , i will settle for that . Its a thread about Covid . What do you want me to write

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:27 pm
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:09 pm
BoniO wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:07 pm Christ, George could bore for England.
Nah
what he is trting to do Bones is
pretend he is Thor
when really he is Max
🤣🤣
My cover has been blown. I knew it was a bad idea to use my real name. Is that what put you on to me Tufft"""""""""""YYYYYYYYYY?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:28 pm
by Max B Gold
George wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:24 pm Moscow Times . Free on the internet . Sparring over for another day. The pub is calling
See you there mate ;)

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:28 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:25 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:31 pm Thanks for furthering my point
Nae bother pal. I wasn't arguing btw.
Glad to hear, I'm enjoying this convivial spirit