Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Christ, I am so done with this. But I'm stating to get an uneasy feeling, as there's definitely a drip-drip of hints and winks (which has bene a pattern of government communication throughout this pandemic) that all is not well and we may need to make further changes.

Purely anecdotal:

My team commenced a hybrid office/home working pilot at the beginning September. This involves us all working in the office on Mondays and Tuesdays, and from home the remainder. When in the office we are operating with safety protocols - i.e. 2 meter desk spacing, one way systems around the office, compulsory mask wearing etc.

Allowing for the size of the team, out of a possible 5250 working hours in the pilot so far, we have lost 490 hours due to Covid. That's a 9.33% loss. And the rate of Covid absence has increased throughout the duration of the pilot period.

The advice we are receiving is that current trends will continue and this will get worse as vaccine-induced immunity naturally wanes, and with the possible emergence of more transmissible variants. As a business we're already struggling to operate, but we have no idea what we'll do should Covid absences result in working-hour losses of, say, 15-20%. How does the world operate on that basis?

Are you still council?

Surely you’re used to operating with that level of absenteeism?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:10 pm AY.4.2? Catchy.

Very.

Literally no chance of anyone sticking to any lockdown this winter.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-lockdown

Sounds like the booster programme is a deepening disaster and having sat on their hands with under 16 vaccinations, we're now getting to the case and mortality numbers that are pretty scary.

Parliament passes Coronovirus Act for a further six months without Commons division.

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:35 pm Parliament passes Coronovirus Act for a further six months without Commons division.

Tory donors were spotted bulk buying wheel barrows at B&Q in anticipation of being awarded new government contracts.

We are mugs. All of us.

I was wrong. We're going to have another lockdown.

Hello. Looks like the Government's Covid press conferences are to resume again this afternoon.

Bozo back from his latest holiday then?

Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the (virus) waves.......

In the interests of making money we are all part of a huge experiment to see if herd immunity works. We're slow, whether by design or ineptitude, to roll out the 3rd jab which, using data from Israel, seems very effective. If I was the slightest religious I'd be praying hard over the Winter.

Herd immunity isn't the aim anymore, it's impossible to achieve. We have 90%+ of population with antibodies now, but reinfection is possible within 5 months of recovery. We are going to go through cycles of reinfection for the foreseeable and just have to hope with each reinfection, the cases we get are less severe, to the point where it becomes no more than a nuisance. It's pretty bleak.

The f*ck up with booster roll out is appalling seeing as we know how effective that will be. Government claimed all the credit for initial rollout so sure they'll hold their hands up about this debacle.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:00 pm

I take it this isnt us getting our winter wave out of the way early and more to do with joe public reluctance to wear a face nappy?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:48 pm
I take it this isnt us getting our winter wave out of the way early and more to do with joe public reluctance to wear a face nappy?

It's also to do with waning vaccine effect. To a certain extent we're paying the price of our early vaccine rollout. Third-shot boosters are crucial, although even they only offer a further six months protection.

We have flu booster jabs every year.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:48 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:00 pm

I take it this isnt us getting our winter wave out of the way early and more to do with joe public reluctance to wear a face nappy?

How many people are those countries testing compared to the UK ?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... worldwide/

we do test more

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:27 pm https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... worldwide/

we do test more

can we trust our tests though .

43,000 got messed up didnt they ?

49k cases reported today with testing levels pretty much static.

Is there anywhere we can view the data by region or age group?

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases

Can sort by region bottom left graphic

Age https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... d-covid-19

Sajid Javid to give press conference at 5pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-58978351

I heard somewhere on the media, that all over 70's will be invited for a booster jab this week. Being a good citizen I waited. However I was texted to see Diabetic Nursie. So I rang Surgery to make the necessary. Quickly added " what's happening re booster jabs?" Was handed an appointment for Saturday. So NHS not exactly being proactive. Now listening Beeb News Channel and Government blaming us punters for slow take-up of booster jabs.

Morocco bans Flights form the uk due to rising covid numbers .