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I've got an uneasy feelin' in my chest wondering what it means.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:34 pm Shambles of course, but I didn't see a better alternative

Thereby was the issue. We got one of two very poor options.

The shambles continues at such a pace I’m bored with it.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:35 pm FFS. Even if it's just to pay lip service to them, at least do that so that you can say you have consulted. They're even being sh*t and being sh*t.

This just feels like such an obvious own goal you almost think it might be deliberate. I don't know why they'd do it on purpose but to do it accidentally after everything that's gone before, and the criticism they - justifiably - aimed at every Govt from the moment May refused to meet the bereaved in the days after, is basically implausible.

There's no right answer to what to do with the Tower, some want it down, some want it kept up. You'll never win. But as per Dunnem, to just go and suddenly dictate what you're doing rather than even pretend there's been any consultation is just...no, they can't actually have done that without making a conscious decision to do so.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:37 pm This just feels like such an obvious own goal you almost think it might be deliberate. I don't know why they'd do it on purpose... ...no, they can't actually have done that without making a conscious decision to do so.

You've nailed it.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:11 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:37 pm I've not bothered keeping abreast of what this whole Chagos Islands thing is about, but interviews like this do tend to indicate that a shambles is occurring.

So we're giving them an island AND paying them for it? In a time of financial austerity?

“I once claimed that the UK had a £22 billion black hole and then decided to send £9 billion to Mauritius.”

Mauritius is a well known tax haven used in many offshore "schemes". Somebody has to pay for the infrastructure to support it. May as well be us UK taxpayers.

Labour strategy to focus on the longer term projects is, I admit, a smart move. Jam tomorrow due to tough decisions taken now. A change in narrative. So let’s suffer a good few years of “stagflation”. Low growth, increasing inflation, job losses because things will eventually get better. Even the Bank of England chipping in.

What a shambles. Like a comedy film Carry on regardless, except it’s not funny.

I’ve no great respect for much of the hypocrisy spewed out by politicians of all persuasions, but this lot are proving to be masters of it. Still, at least they are good at something,

So smart AND shambolic. Got it.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:17 am

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:11 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:37 pm I've not bothered keeping abreast of what this whole Chagos Islands thing is about, but interviews like this do tend to indicate that a shambles is occurring.

So we're giving them an island AND paying them for it? In a time of financial austerity?

“I once claimed that the UK had a £22 billion black hole and then decided to send £9 billion to Mauritius.”

Any country that can give away taxpayers money to other countries is a country charging too much tax

That's not really a logical conclusion though, is it?

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:46 pm So smart AND shambolic. Got it.

Diverting attention away from the current shambles is pretty smart.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:53 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:46 pm So smart AND shambolic. Got it.

Diverting attention away from the current shambles is pretty smart.

But unfortunately yet another shambles. Nobody can say I didn't warn youse about Labour being infiltrated and captured by Capital.

Andrew Gwynne, the MP for Gorton and Denton, has been sacked as health minister and suspended from the Labour Party.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/health-minist ... 14969.html

He reportedly posted sexist comments about Angela Rayner, racist remarks about Labour MP Diane Abbott and joked about an elderly woman dying in a closed group chat with Labour figures based around Manchester.

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:14 am Andrew Gwynne, the MP for Gorton and Denton, has been sacked as health minister and suspended from the Labour Party.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/health-minist ... 14969.html

He reportedly posted sexist comments about Angela Rayner, racist remarks about Labour MP Diane Abbott and joked about an elderly woman dying in a closed group chat with Labour figures based around Manchester.

Wait what!? Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign chief made antisemitic remarks!?

Starmer's big achievement of the day ....

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -for-virus

He took an HIV test for publicity purposes.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:06 am

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:14 am Andrew Gwynne, the MP for Gorton and Denton, has been sacked as health minister and suspended from the Labour Party.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/health-minist ... 14969.html

He reportedly posted sexist comments about Angela Rayner, racist remarks about Labour MP Diane Abbott and joked about an elderly woman dying in a closed group chat with Labour figures based around Manchester.

Wait what!? Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign chief made antisemitic remarks!?

Let me get this straight: you invite us to use Gwynne's recent comments as condemnation of Corbyn even though Gwynne's comments were seemingly made when he was amongst Starmer's chosen for ministerial positions?

E10EU wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 1:49 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:06 am

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:14 am Andrew Gwynne, the MP for Gorton and Denton, has been sacked as health minister and suspended from the Labour Party.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/health-minist ... 14969.html

He reportedly posted sexist comments about Angela Rayner, racist remarks about Labour MP Diane Abbott and joked about an elderly woman dying in a closed group chat with Labour figures based around Manchester.

Wait what!? Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign chief made antisemitic remarks!?

Let me get this straight: you invite us to use Gwynne's recent comments as condemnation of Corbyn even though Gwynne's comments were seemingly made when he was amongst Starmer's chosen for ministerial positions?

Clearly Starmer didn’t remove the anti-Semitic element from Labour. Instead he made one a Minister! Great judgement.

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:14 am Andrew Gwynne, the MP for Gorton and Denton, has been sacked as health minister and suspended from the Labour Party.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/health-minist ... 14969.html

He reportedly posted sexist comments about Angela Rayner, racist remarks about Labour MP Diane Abbott and joked about an elderly woman dying in a closed group chat with Labour figures based around Manchester.

More will come out for sure.

Labour to start filming deportations of illegal immigrants.. that one’s a bit strong even for me…go labour!

E10EU wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 1:49 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:06 am

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:14 am Andrew Gwynne, the MP for Gorton and Denton, has been sacked as health minister and suspended from the Labour Party.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/health-minist ... 14969.html

He reportedly posted sexist comments about Angela Rayner, racist remarks about Labour MP Diane Abbott and joked about an elderly woman dying in a closed group chat with Labour figures based around Manchester.

Wait what!? Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign chief made antisemitic remarks!?

Let me get this straight: you invite us to use Gwynne's recent comments as condemnation of Corbyn even though Gwynne's comments were seemingly made when he was amongst Starmer's chosen for ministerial positions?

DO NOT BITE!

That's quite a catch for pammy. Usually the E10EU Bot's algorithm doesn't include user engagement.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:46 am Labour to start filming deportations of illegal immigrants.. that one’s a bit strong even for me…go labour!

Is it PPV or free to air though?

E10EU wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 1:36 am Starmer's big achievement of the day ....

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -for-virus

He took an HIV test for publicity purposes.

Tbf he's got a higher risk due to all the shagging around he's been doing.

Another one bites the dust...

Second Labour MP suspended by party over WhatsApp group allegations

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 95566.html

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:02 pm

E10EU wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 1:36 am Starmer's big achievement of the day ....

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -for-virus

He took an HIV test for publicity purposes.

Tbf he's got a higher risk due to all the shagging around he's been doing.

Nailed on Sir Kier Shagger took one in private, just in case.