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I don’t want to get all gammony but anyone who thinks that’s sustainable needs to give there head a wobble.

Whether or not it is sustainable depends on the objectives.

I tend not to view immigration through a good/bad lens, as it's more complex than that. But if a country if going to run net immigration on these figures, then it calls for a cohesive strategy around education, employment, housing, welfare, integration, infrastructure and public services. Without any of that then we're just developing into a low-wage economy with a swelling underclass that is increasing disconnected from anything resembling a social contract. And that will not end well.

However, on the plus side, we're never short for an undocumented Deliveroo rider around here.

Daily Express bot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:52 am

Joe315 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:09 pm

Daily Express bot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:34 pm

Chantelle Houghton’s ex husband, member of
Ordinary Boys band.

Why have you brought him up ? Is it 1 of your Tony Blackburn jokes ?

I have a bit in common with Tony Blackburn the Disc Jockey, whose wife slipped off with a man about the house.

My misses ran off with a Jockey with a slipped disc , ended up with the house and I’m not about .

back to your saying stuff for the sake of saying stuff nonsense.

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:08 pm

Eagles do not catch flies

Daily Express bot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:37 pm

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:08 pm

Eagles do not catch flies

Wood doesn't talk to cats.

Joe315 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:27 pm

Daily Express bot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:37 pm

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:08 pm

Eagles do not catch flies

Wood doesn't talk to cats.

Elijah Wood does .

Daily Express bot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:39 pm

Joe315 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:27 pm

Daily Express bot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:37 pm

Eagles do not catch flies

Wood doesn't talk to cats.

Elijah Wood does .

Scramled egg past 10 nearly.

It looks like The Greens are finally giving the good people of Bromsgrove an alternative to Sajid Javid. The Labour candidate had better watch out.

Apparently Braverman is going to make a statement in the Commons today, and is expected to not only stick the knife fully into Sunak, but give it a bit of a jiggle around too.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:21 am Apparently Braverman is going to make a statement in the Commons today, and is expected to not only stick the knife fully into Sunak, but give it a bit of a jiggle around too.

I feel he next big move will be making plans with Nigel

It's becoming increasingly a possibility that the Tories may go through another leadership contest before the general election.

Ooh - Sunak to hold a news conference at 11.00am

Really scrambling my mind how much of their future Tory MPs seem to have tied into deporting a tiny number of asylum seekers to a brutal dictatorship in Africa. If you step back from the backstabbing and grandstanding drama, it's wild that this is where the Tory party is in 2023. No plans for declining living standards, stagnant productivity, a health care crisis, a housing crisis, any of the big stuff, just the technicalities of how we hand over potentially many vulnerable people to a monster like Kagame.

We aren't a serious country.

I now just find the whole Rwanda thing funny. It was so obviously just a crank idea they put out there for sh*ts and giggles, but now they're complete hostages to trying to make out they believe in it as serious policy. Even Rwanda doesn't believe that.

Probably drafted on the same fag packet that Patel jotted down deploying big wind machines around the coast to send boats back to France.

Hate Nick Robinson but he gave Suella a decent going over this morning, not that she won't use it as evidence of the "elites" trying to silence her.

Putting aside what this issue is about for a moment, there is an interesting debate to be had about the role a Supreme Court should play in our democracy.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:19 am Putting aside what this issue is about for a moment, there is an interesting debate to be had about the role a Supreme Court should play in our democracy.

It's pretty weak compared to supreme courts in other countries and has taken a turn towards getting even less involved in challenging government decisions in the last few years since the makeup of the court changed. We have incredibly little by way of checks on parliamentary power and the Tories are trying to use the boats crisis as a wedge to get popular support for reducing those checks further.

We boarders have discussed the seemingly unsolvable problem of small boat migration for a while and the Tories havent come close to finding a solution. An election cant come soon enough.

This I would welcome

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:01 pm This I would welcome

Sorry to be that person, but an A320 has a maximum seating capacity of 180. The Tories have 350 MPs.

It also has a range of about 3,300 nautical miles or 6,150 kilometres. This distance from Heathrow to Kigali is 3558 nautical miles or 6590 kilometres.

So Sam Coates' contact is wrong, and attempting to do as they have said would result in just half of Tory MPs crashing to their deaths in forests of the DRC.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:11 pm

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:01 pm This I would welcome

Sorry to be that person, but an A320 has a maximum seating capacity of 180. The Tories have 350 MPs.

It also has a range of about 3,300 nautical miles or 6,150 kilometres. This distance from Heathrow to Kigali is 3558 nautical miles or 6590 kilometres.

So Sam Coates' contact is wrong, and attempting to do as they have said would result in just half of Tory MPs crashing to their deaths in forests of the DRC.

Not quite. All of the Tory MPs would be on board, just in incredibly cramped, Easyjetesque conditions. The range would have been reduced because of the additional weight, so they wouldn't have made it as far as the DCR.

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