Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:38 pm
Seems like Two Tier is keen to emulate the Boris style of leadership where he “stands by” his ministers when it’s clear their position is untenable, allow a week of bad press to damage the party then they resign (get sacked) anyway
I especially like the way he copied Boris, by sending out one of his Ministers to do the press round and defend her, only to pull this off in the afternoon.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:16 am
by Max B Gold
I see inflation is down. Nice one Reevse"""yyy
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:54 pm
by Dohnut
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:16 am
I see inflation is down. Nice one Reevse"""yyy
All sorted. Get the flags flying and the bells ringing. The carnage is over.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:40 pm
by ContrifibulatoryFred
Ideological fiscal decisions rarely bear fruit
This current Government have targeted any and all firms of aspiration. Who would want to build up or develop their own business in this atmosphere of encouraging sloth and laziness rather than honest graft. Giving role employment rights from dry one is insane - why would any business owner want to risk their capital on recruits who cannot be dismissed if found to be crap?
Why would any business want to risk telling on staff when NI contributions are so stiflingly high - on top of unfair business rates and now a shameful raid on pension funds built up by those who have worked hard and made sacrifices to take care of their futures?
Starmer is an oaf.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:42 pm
by ContrifibulatoryFred
Ideological fiscal decisions rarely bear fruit
This current Government have targeted any and all forms of aspiration. Who would want to build up or develop their own business in this atmosphere of encouraging sloth and laziness rather than honest graft. Giving syaff employment rights from day one is insane - why would any business owner want to risk their capital on recruits who cannot be dismissed if found to be crap?
Why would any business want to risk taking on staff when NI contributions are so stiflingly high - on top of unfair business rates? Not to mention the shameful raid on pension funds built up by those who have worked hard and made sacrifices to take care of their futures?
Starmer is an oaf.
Labour will fail
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:58 pm
by Max B Gold
Shambles of a post.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:06 pm
by Dohnut
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:58 pm
Shambles of a post.
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:58 pm
Shambles of a post.
Shambles of a come back.
Max runs a transportation company so I think he’s well placed to comment on employment law
What have you done business wise recently?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:28 pm
by Max B Gold
You left out the FACT that I'm also a barrack room lawyer.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:31 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
So Yvette Cooper has announced five local inquiries into Pakistani rape gangs (the scandal covers fifty boroughs) instead of a national independent inquiry
This is going to be a another case of dragging out doing the thing that needs to be done and getting weeks worth of bad headlines in the process
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:24 pm
by StillSpike
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:31 pm
So Yvette Cooper has announced five local inquiries into Pakistani rape gangs (the scandal covers fifty boroughs) instead of a national independent inquiry
This is going to be a another case of dragging out doing the thing that needs to be done and getting weeks worth of bad headlines in the process
.... before finally backing down and actually doing it anyway.
A judge has strongly criticised social services and the police for failing vulnerable young girls who fell victim to sexual exploitation by Asian grooming gangs
Same story as reported in over 50 other towns and cities, but not considered worthy of a full enquiry.
Also, the term "Asian grooming gangs" is racist. It lazily implies that this is an issue which all Asians are complicit.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:36 am
by Dunners
Unlike many fellow lefties, I genuinely wish the Starmer government to succeed. Mainly because I think the alternative could be far worse.
But the decision to appoint Mandelson as ambassador to the US was so obviously stupid, that he deserves to be humiliated.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:56 am
by Hoover Attack
Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:36 am
Unlike many fellow lefties, I genuinely wish the Starmer government to succeed. Mainly because I think the alternative could be far worse.
This is where your thinking fails.
Starmers Government is just a continuation of what has gone before. It is therefore guaranteed to fail. And will absolutely lead to the alternative you (and your fellow lefties) fear becoming a reality.
We needed to do things a different way - something we all know isnt possible - to prevent what is coming.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:04 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Liz Truss agrees
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 7:03 pm
by Dunners
"we need to take on mis&disinformation"
How? If a full, open, national enquiry into the systematic failure to detect and prevent the mass sexual exploitation of children is not allowed, then how?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:59 pm
by Long slender neck
Not sure what years long inquiries into sexual abuse has to do with misinformation.
Governments need to take on the tech bros.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:58 pm
by BoniO
Hasn’t there already been an Inquiry and weren’t there a number of actions from this Inquiry? I understand the Tories failed to carry out any of the actions and that’s the big problem here.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:33 pm
by Bandy Legs
BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:58 pm
Hasn’t there already been an Inquiry and weren’t there a number of actions from this Inquiry? I understand the Tories failed to carry out any of the actions and that’s the big problem here.
Yes & was pointed out here by comedian JP.
He also slated the x/Twitter mob who were pushing far right agenda
BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:58 pm
Hasn’t there already been an Inquiry and weren’t there a number of actions from this Inquiry? I understand the Tories failed to carry out any of the actions and that’s the big problem here.
Yes & was pointed out here by comedian JP.
He also slated the x/Twitter mob who were pushing far right agenda
Did he mention dunnem specifically?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:05 am
by Dunners
BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:58 pm
Hasn’t there already been an Inquiry and weren’t there a number of actions from this Inquiry? I understand the Tories failed to carry out any of the actions and that’s the big problem here.
There have been local enquiries into different, but related, issues. And, yes, the Tories did fail to implement those recommendations.
There has not been a full and open enquiry looking at why there appears to have been systematic failure of local authorities, local police forces, social services and other agencies to act in a way they should have, in instances in over 50 towns where men of Pakistani origin have targeted underage white girls.
This is what the survivors are asking for.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:06 am
by Dunners
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:59 pm
Not sure what years long inquiries into sexual abuse has to do with misinformation.
Governments need to take on the tech bros.
Why does it have to be years long? Labour managed to wrap up the Steven Lawrence enquiry within 18 months.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:11 am
by Dunners
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:49 pm
17 - A full public enquiry, as requested by victims, could explore whether there was any basis to the above claims, identify where failings have occurred, and propose recommendations for justice and improvements. If these claims were proven to be incorrect then, while it may not stop the far right from spreading lies, it would mean everyone else could be informed. It would also close down any information vacuum which, as we know from certain other topics, the far right are skilled at exploiting.
