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Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:47 am Is it right that vaccinated people are just as likely to spread covid as unvaccinated numpties?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:47 am Is it right that vaccinated people are just as likely to spread covid as unvaccinated numpties?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:19 pm Thanks, so confirms the anti vaxxers are being totally selfish and the club being irresponsible by letting them in.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:25 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:32 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:25 pm

Sadly passed away, only 37

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:32 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:25 pm

Sadly passed away, only 37

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:00 pm Didn't know her but it is shocking. There can be no more tragic a message to Get The Jab.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:41 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:00 pm Didn't know her but it is shocking. There can be no more tragic a message to Get The Jab.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:27 pm She was at The Spurs game as well
Photo of her kids being "Home "
asThey were all O's Mad .

Very very Sad news

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:31 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:27 pm She was at The Spurs game as well
Photo of her kids being "Home "
asThey were all O's Mad .

Very very Sad news

Yeah, saw a pic of them at a game in their new shirts - must have been that game. Very sad to think how things changed so quickly.

Simple Man wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:22 pm Read several medical articles and they said the majority of COVID cases and especially deaths resulting from it are those who are unvaccinated. Perhaps not surprising.

Local hospital said that those admitted with COVID are asking if it is too late to get vaccinated. If that wasn't so sad it would be funny.

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:44 pm

Simple Man wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:22 pm Read several medical articles and they said the majority of COVID cases and especially deaths resulting from it are those who are unvaccinated. Perhaps not surprising.

Local hospital said that those admitted with COVID are asking if it is too late to get vaccinated. If that wasn't so sad it would be funny.

Under-30s reluctant to take Covid vaccine cite fertility and side-effect concerns
Fears over ‘experimental’ inoculation show that more needs to be done to counter harmful misinformation.

“We’re reopening the economy when young people generally haven’t had the vaccine and the implication is that it’s fine if they get Covid,” said Evie Aspinall, the head UK delegate to the G7 Youth Summit and a former president of Cambridge University Students’ Union. “They’re telling us there’s no sense of real threat.”
''Georgia, 28, from the West Midlands said fertility was her chief concern. “I’ve read about a lot of adverse reactions to the vaccine too which puts me off – effects on women’s reproductive systems and cycles. I want to have a baby in the next year and there’s no published data on its long-term effects on fertility. “I just don’t understand why I really need it, I’m healthy and I trust my immune system over the government.”

''Sam Everington, a GP in east London who sits on the British Medical Association council, said that more needed to be done to counter misinformation. “It is difficult, but we need to carry on challenging stuff on social media that is just not true,” he said. “The commonest thing I hear is young people talking about infertility, and there is just no evidence of that.”
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... t-concerns

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:44 pm

Simple Man wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:22 pm Read several medical articles and they said the majority of COVID cases and especially deaths resulting from it are those who are unvaccinated. Perhaps not surprising.

Local hospital said that those admitted with COVID are asking if it is too late to get vaccinated. If that wasn't so sad it would be funny.

Under-30s reluctant to take Covid vaccine cite fertility and side-effect concerns
Fears over ‘experimental’ inoculation show that more needs to be done to counter harmful misinformation.

“We’re reopening the economy when young people generally haven’t had the vaccine and the implication is that it’s fine if they get Covid,” said Evie Aspinall, the head UK delegate to the G7 Youth Summit and a former president of Cambridge University Students’ Union. “They’re telling us there’s no sense of real threat.”
''Georgia, 28, from the West Midlands said fertility was her chief concern. “I’ve read about a lot of adverse reactions to the vaccine too which puts me off – effects on women’s reproductive systems and cycles. I want to have a baby in the next year and there’s no published data on its long-term effects on fertility. “I just don’t understand why I really need it, I’m healthy and I trust my immune system over the government.”

''Sam Everington, a GP in east London who sits on the British Medical Association council, said that more needed to be done to counter misinformation. “It is difficult, but we need to carry on challenging stuff on social media that is just not true,” he said. “The commonest thing I hear is young people talking about infertility, and there is just no evidence of that.”
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... t-concerns

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:50 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:44 pm

Simple Man wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:22 pm Read several medical articles and they said the majority of COVID cases and especially deaths resulting from it are those who are unvaccinated. Perhaps not surprising.

Local hospital said that those admitted with COVID are asking if it is too late to get vaccinated. If that wasn't so sad it would be funny.

Under-30s reluctant to take Covid vaccine cite fertility and side-effect concerns
Fears over ‘experimental’ inoculation show that more needs to be done to counter harmful misinformation.

“We’re reopening the economy when young people generally haven’t had the vaccine and the implication is that it’s fine if they get Covid,” said Evie Aspinall, the head UK delegate to the G7 Youth Summit and a former president of Cambridge University Students’ Union. “They’re telling us there’s no sense of real threat.”
''Georgia, 28, from the West Midlands said fertility was her chief concern. “I’ve read about a lot of adverse reactions to the vaccine too which puts me off – effects on women’s reproductive systems and cycles. I want to have a baby in the next year and there’s no published data on its long-term effects on fertility. “I just don’t understand why I really need it, I’m healthy and I trust my immune system over the government.”

''Sam Everington, a GP in east London who sits on the British Medical Association council, said that more needed to be done to counter misinformation. “It is difficult, but we need to carry on challenging stuff on social media that is just not true,” he said. “The commonest thing I hear is young people talking about infertility, and there is just no evidence of that.”
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... t-concerns

You been a Guardianista long Sid?

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:05 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:44 pm

Simple Man wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:22 pm Read several medical articles and they said the majority of COVID cases and especially deaths resulting from it are those who are unvaccinated. Perhaps not surprising.

Local hospital said that those admitted with COVID are asking if it is too late to get vaccinated. If that wasn't so sad it would be funny.

Under-30s reluctant to take Covid vaccine cite fertility and side-effect concerns
Fears over ‘experimental’ inoculation show that more needs to be done to counter harmful misinformation.

“We’re reopening the economy when young people generally haven’t had the vaccine and the implication is that it’s fine if they get Covid,” said Evie Aspinall, the head UK delegate to the G7 Youth Summit and a former president of Cambridge University Students’ Union. “They’re telling us there’s no sense of real threat.”
''Georgia, 28, from the West Midlands said fertility was her chief concern. “I’ve read about a lot of adverse reactions to the vaccine too which puts me off – effects on women’s reproductive systems and cycles. I want to have a baby in the next year and there’s no published data on its long-term effects on fertility. “I just don’t understand why I really need it, I’m healthy and I trust my immune system over the government.”

''Sam Everington, a GP in east London who sits on the British Medical Association council, said that more needed to be done to counter misinformation. “It is difficult, but we need to carry on challenging stuff on social media that is just not true,” he said. “The commonest thing I hear is young people talking about infertility, and there is just no evidence of that.”
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... t-concerns

I complete sympathise and have been through a similar journey. There's no evidence of infertility but theres also no evidence against it yet. Young people are being told (and almost forced in some circumstances) to put something into their bodies to protect against something that statistically they are very likely to get over, which has no evidence for medium or short term effects. I get why they would be resistant. It's easy for people who have 5/10 years left to be telling people who have 50/60 years left what to do to their body.