Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Wally Banter wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:48 pm Not that Cummings is a reliable witness by any stretch, but if even 20% of the things he has said are true, the levels of incompetence and inhumanity are just astonishing.

CEB wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:21 pm

Wally Banter wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:48 pm Not that Cummings is a reliable witness by any stretch, but if even 20% of the things he has said are true, the levels of incompetence and inhumanity are just astonishing.

As I said on another thread in relation to the Crispin Blunt thing - I reckon the truth of it is that Cummings’ assertions are all factual and accurate, but that the truly sinister thing is that people in positions of power are happily enabling actions and behaviour that are literally evil, and saving them up to be deployed only when exposing somebody suits their own personal petty grievances rather than any true justice

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:07 am She finally got what she wanted.

Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:48 am After the Brexit fiasco, Cameron completely disappeared and has now re-emerged out of nowhere to take up a senior ministerial post. What the fcuk is going on with this circus of a government?

Stowaway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:52 am I didn’t even know it was possible for someone who isn’t even a sitting MP to become a minister. How is this allowed?

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:54 am Conkles will be delighted.

Friend or faux wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:12 am I am surprised O's supporters were unaware that members of the public can be Foreign Secretary. This has a tenuous link to Leyton. In 1964 Election, Harold Wilson wanted Patrick Gordon Walker to be Foreign Secretary. But he lost his seat in the infamous Smethick hustings ( Tory had national Front giving a helping hand, with such slogans as " if you want a N-gger for a neighbour, vote Labour [ not much changes in 60 years does it?] ). Labour had to find Walker a safe Labour seat. There was a by-Election at Leyton, Walker agin failed to win! But he was still Foreign Secretary. Eventually they got him a seat. Also you can be FS as a Lord. y

After the 1964 general election, following a successful career in opposition, Gordon Walker became foreign secretary in the Labour government; he had held the shadow role for the previous year.

Although Labour did win that election to end 13 years of Conservative rule, Gordon Walker was defeated in controversial circumstances by the Conservative candidate, Peter Griffiths. Smethwick had been a focus of immigration from the Commonwealth but the economic and industrial growth of the years following the Second World War were coupled with local factory closures, an ageing population and a lack of modern housing. Griffiths ran a campaign critical of the opposition's, and the government's, policies, including immigration policies. Griffiths was also accused of exploiting the slogan "If you want a nigger neighbour, vote Labour".[4]

Despite, therefore, not being an MP or peer able to answer to parliament, Gordon Walker was appointed to the Foreign Office by Harold Wilson. To resolve this unusual situation, he stood for the normally "safe" Labour constituency of Leyton in the Leyton by-election in January 1965; however, he lost, and was finally forced to resign as foreign secretary.[4]