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Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:27 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:07 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:09 am

I’m trying hard not to voice too many opinions.

This is great news. Do you forsee a day when it will reach zero?

Not until this current mob stop screwing up. I’m sure you, like me, hope it’s sooner rather than later.

Be fair labour have only been in for 6 months, the Con party screwed us for 14 years!

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:27 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:07 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:09 am

I’m trying hard not to voice too many opinions.

This is great news. Do you forsee a day when it will reach zero?

Not until this current mob stop screwing up. I’m sure you, like me, hope it’s sooner rather than later.

Of course. You've always been even-handed with praise and criticism. I'm sure you'll be the first to congratulate Keir when there's positive news.

He literally itemised how he’s WUMing a few hours ago and still they bite

cockhat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:44 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:27 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:07 am

This is great news. Do you forsee a day when it will reach zero?

Not until this current mob stop screwing up. I’m sure you, like me, hope it’s sooner rather than later.

Be fair labour have only been in for 6 months, the Con party screwed us for 14 years!

They may have only been in power for six months this time, but it’s rinse and repeat. Seen it all before and it’s heading the same way

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:09 pm He literally itemised how he’s WUMing a few hours ago and still they bite

You're literally repeating what's been said many times before and still you do it

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:09 pm He literally itemised how he’s WUMing a few hours ago and still they bite

Genuinely mind bottling.

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:28 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:09 pm He literally itemised how he’s WUMing a few hours ago and still they bite

You're literally repeating what's been said many times before and still you do it

You must enjoy it

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:45 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:28 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:09 pm He literally itemised how he’s WUMing a few hours ago and still they bite

You're literally repeating what's been said many times before and still you do it

You must enjoy it

Well, you call it biting, when it's really just a bit of fun. We all know Dohnut is a dumb-arse troll but sometimes it's good to point out just how stupid he is. What's your reason for re-posting that he's on a Wum as if it's new news?

I thought so

He "thought so"

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:58 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:27 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:07 am

This is great news. Do you forsee a day when it will reach zero?

Not until this current mob stop screwing up. I’m sure you, like me, hope it’s sooner rather than later.

Of course. You've always been even-handed with praise and criticism. I'm sure you'll be the first to congratulate Keir when there's positive news.

I definitely want good news. Why wouldn’t I. I don’t give a toss about the party running the country, just want some progress, or at least signs of progress even during difficult times. Starmer and his crew are screwing up big time and in record time. I hope they rid themselves of the L plates sooner rather than later. Who in their right minds want to be heading for a recession.

Labour cuts mean we’ll be getting thousands of police officers cut in London and hundreds in Essex depending on where you live

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 99058.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c159qw2qd9do

Because, if there's one thing everyone in London and Essex agrees on, it's that we just don't need those police officers due to the sheer lack of crime blighting our communities.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:57 pm Labour cuts mean we’ll be getting thousands of police officers cut in London and hundreds in Essex depending on where you live

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 99058.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c159qw2qd9do

Maybe they can all become builders. Not enough of those to meet the building targets we have. Mind you, with so many anticipated job losses elsewhere it’s a cunning plan to increase numbers in the building trade. Should be trained in 2/3 years.

Shambles

Maybe you should have read the articles before spewing out more garbage Dohnut, old chap. See below from the Met Commissioner:

The capital’s top officer insisted Scotland Yard had run out of ways to plug funding gaps and he was “deeply troubled” by the situation it was facing.
“This is not just about this year’s decisions, but it’s a cumulative effect of decisions over the last decade or so which have put us in a more and more precarious position,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Political Thinking with Nick Robinson.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:57 pm Labour cuts mean we’ll be getting thousands of police officers cut in London and hundreds in Essex depending on where you live

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 99058.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c159qw2qd9do

Nope - most of the damage was done by the Tories - try reading articles before you post links.

Oh look, ditching yet another promise made when in opposition:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... in-england

Scumbags.

Latest report dated 13th December 2024 warns of issues facing the force next year with current funding projections expected to simply cover expected increased costs. Despite NI costs being covered.

The issue being the latest objectives set by the current Government need more funding if they are to be met. In fact many jobs may be lost despite this being a priority area for the Government.

The issue is that the Government are making promises that the budgets do not match. Irrespective of any past cuts, this is a current issue whereby one thing is being promised as a priority yet funding is insufficient to meet that priority. Going forward!

The cuts are being projected for 2025. Let’s hope Cooper stumps up more cash soon.

Policing staff has increased, slowly, over the past few years. The police uplift program which ended in 2023 which aimed to recruit 20,000 officers. This of course follows a slump from 2010 onwards. 117k in 2018 now 142k. Back to the levels prior to the financial crash.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:47 pm Latest report dated 13th December 2024 warns of issues facing the force next year with current funding projections expected to simply cover expected increased costs. Despite NI costs being covered.

The issue being the latest objectives set by the current Government need more funding if they are to be met. In fact many jobs may be lost despite this being a priority area for the Government.

The issue is that the Government are making promises that the budgets do not match. Irrespective of any past cuts, this is a current issue whereby one thing is being promised as a priority yet funding is insufficient to meet that priority. Going forward!

The cuts are being projected for 2025. Let’s hope Cooper stumps up more cash soon.

Policing staff has increased, slowly, over the past few years. The police uplift program which ended in 2023 which aimed to recruit 20,000 officers. This of course follows a slump from 2010 onwards. 117k in 2018 now 142k. Back to the levels prior to the financial crash.

Food for thought.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:47 pm Latest report dated 13th December 2024 warns of issues facing the force next year with current funding projections expected to simply cover expected increased costs. Despite NI costs being covered.

The issue being the latest objectives set by the current Government need more funding if they are to be met. In fact many jobs may be lost despite this being a priority area for the Government.

The issue is that the Government are making promises that the budgets do not match. Irrespective of any past cuts, this is a current issue whereby one thing is being promised as a priority yet funding is insufficient to meet that priority. Going forward!

The cuts are being projected for 2025. Let’s hope Cooper stumps up more cash soon.

Policing staff has increased, slowly, over the past few years. The police uplift program which ended in 2023 which aimed to recruit 20,000 officers. This of course follows a slump from 2010 onwards. 117k in 2018 now 142k. Back to the levels prior to the financial crash.

Only fair way to judge numbers is by head of population really.

Tories decimated numbers then tried an uplift but were only partially successful due to also damaging pay and conditions.

The current shortfall is on Labour to plug as they are in charge now.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:47 pm Latest report dated 13th December 2024 warns of issues facing the force next year with current funding projections expected to simply cover expected increased costs. Despite NI costs being covered.

The issue being the latest objectives set by the current Government need more funding if they are to be met. In fact many jobs may be lost despite this being a priority area for the Government.

The issue is that the Government are making promises that the budgets do not match. Irrespective of any past cuts, this is a current issue whereby one thing is being promised as a priority yet funding is insufficient to meet that priority. Going forward!

The cuts are being projected for 2025. Let’s hope Cooper stumps up more cash soon.

Policing staff has increased, slowly, over the past few years. The police uplift program which ended in 2023 which aimed to recruit 20,000 officers. This of course follows a slump from 2010 onwards. 117k in 2018 now 142k. Back to the levels prior to the financial crash.

Wow - you seem to know more about this issue than the Commissioner of the Met! He thinks the issue goes back a decade or more i.e. NOT just a current issue. Maybe you should have a word with him.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 9:51 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:47 pm Latest report dated 13th December 2024 warns of issues facing the force next year with current funding projections expected to simply cover expected increased costs. Despite NI costs being covered.

The issue being the latest objectives set by the current Government need more funding if they are to be met. In fact many jobs may be lost despite this being a priority area for the Government.

The issue is that the Government are making promises that the budgets do not match. Irrespective of any past cuts, this is a current issue whereby one thing is being promised as a priority yet funding is insufficient to meet that priority. Going forward!

The cuts are being projected for 2025. Let’s hope Cooper stumps up more cash soon.

Policing staff has increased, slowly, over the past few years. The police uplift program which ended in 2023 which aimed to recruit 20,000 officers. This of course follows a slump from 2010 onwards. 117k in 2018 now 142k. Back to the levels prior to the financial crash.

Only fair way to judge numbers is by head of population really.

Tories decimated numbers then tried an uplift but were only partially successful due to also damaging pay and conditions.

The current shortfall is on Labour to plug as they are in charge now.

I accept your apology for getting your original rabid post completely wrong.

You’re so odd, guess you’ll have to go on foe with the other weirdos

And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust (yeah)

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 9:51 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:47 pm Latest report dated 13th December 2024 warns of issues facing the force next year with current funding projections expected to simply cover expected increased costs. Despite NI costs being covered.

The issue being the latest objectives set by the current Government need more funding if they are to be met. In fact many jobs may be lost despite this being a priority area for the Government.

The issue is that the Government are making promises that the budgets do not match. Irrespective of any past cuts, this is a current issue whereby one thing is being promised as a priority yet funding is insufficient to meet that priority. Going forward!

The cuts are being projected for 2025. Let’s hope Cooper stumps up more cash soon.

Policing staff has increased, slowly, over the past few years. The police uplift program which ended in 2023 which aimed to recruit 20,000 officers. This of course follows a slump from 2010 onwards. 117k in 2018 now 142k. Back to the levels prior to the financial crash.

Only fair way to judge numbers is by head of population really.

Tories decimated numbers then tried an uplift but were only partially successful due to also damaging pay and conditions.

The current shortfall is on Labour to plug as they are in charge now.

The stats show numbers dropped post financial crisis, the Tories grappling with no money. For the next 7 or 8 years numbers dropped alarmingly. A bad time following the Global Financial Crisis. By 2018 numbers hit their lowest point for years. Little credit to go round. Let’s hope those times don’t return.

Effort was made to restore numbers and by 2023 were a little above pre-crisis. Are these numbers good enough? Is there enough money? The police, like unions and others, always want more. Looking after their own. Why not! They applied pressure on the Tories and are doing exactly the same to Labour.

The issue going forward is simple, Government have set objectives and need to fund them. Cooper has set objectives but has yet to sufficiently cover the direct and indirect cost increases the police (everyone) will face going forward following the budget. A consequence being in 2025, cuts rather than increases are being forecast.

The current issues are purely on the current Government. Talk is cheap. Unless they are backed up with sufficient funding it’s not going to end well.