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Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:06 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:24 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:44 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:35 pm

There is no viable opposition. Only this week the Red Tories colluded with the Blue ones to remove the right to protest. At a very basic level if the Red Tories are not able to protect Civil Liberties, what are they for?
The Blue Party & there massive majority really have got you doing there work for them dont they ,No LEFT WINGER worth his Salt desire Tories in power after the next Election ! Ignore this Tory Tout everyone .
Hmm, where did I say I wanted the Tories in power? IMBECILE.
Just worry about keeping T@RIES OUT Laddieeeee as you say in the Shire

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:09 pm
by tuffers#1
Admin wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:17 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:26 am
Admin wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:21 am

Can you show your workings on this?
You'll find it under General Elections !
Thought not. Thanks for confirming.
Strange comment considering GE Election
results are available to view easily ,

The last elections (since 2010) Have clearly
shown some on the Left have allowed Tory Victory .
A United Party keeps the Tories out !

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:58 pm
by tuffers#1

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:59 am
by tuffers#1
The usual scum defending there boy


Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:33 am
by tuffers#1
More T@ry Shame

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65941710

David Warburton quits as MP, triggering
another by-election

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:37 am
by tuffers#1
And still more

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65941549

A video has emerged showing some Conservative Party workers drinking and dancing at a Christmas party during the Covid pandemic..

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Remembering those Idiots on here
Who'd state it was just Working .


Funny they seem to no longer post here .
George M & Dohnut to name just 2

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:34 am
by tuffers#1
Michael Gove on Laura Kuensberg

" No Help For Mortgage Payers " .

Are we back to mass Re-possesions of the 80s ?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:52 am
by The Mindsweep
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:34 am Michael Gove on Laura Kuensberg

" No Help For Mortgage Payers " .

Are we back to mass Re-possesions of the 80s ?
Most will have plenty of equity, why should government support investment. Sell, get a more affordable property or use the profit from the sale to rent.

What mortgage holders are now experiencing has been a fact of life that the increasing amount of people who rent have been suffering with for years.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:12 am
by Max Fowler
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:52 am
Most will have plenty of equity, why should government support investment. Sell, get a more affordable property or use the profit from the sale to rent.

What mortgage holders are now experiencing has been a fact of life that the increasing amount of people who rent have been suffering with for years.
Is there any evidence for this? I would imagine lots of people have continually remortgaged and drawn down on the value of their homes, as we've been encouraged to do so ever since the 1980s.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:42 am
by tuffers#1
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:52 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:34 am Michael Gove on Laura Kuensberg

" No Help For Mortgage Payers " .

Are we back to mass Re-possesions of the 80s ?
Most will have plenty of equity, why should government support investment. Sell, get a more affordable property or use the profit from the sale to rent.

What mortgage holders are now experiencing has been a fact of life that the increasing amount of people who rent have been suffering with for years.
Because the T@ry Government have f#cked the People of this Country over. Bank of England expected to raise the Interest rates again in the next week or 2

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:20 pm
by The Mindsweep
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:12 am
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:52 am
Most will have plenty of equity, why should government support investment. Sell, get a more affordable property or use the profit from the sale to rent.

What mortgage holders are now experiencing has been a fact of life that the increasing amount of people who rent have been suffering with for years.
Is there any evidence for this? I would imagine lots of people have continually remortgaged and drawn down on the value of their homes, as we've been encouraged to do so ever since the 1980s.
If they have already spent their equity it still doesn't warrant the government giving them benefits

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:12 pm
by tuffers#1
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:20 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:12 am
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:52 am
Most will have plenty of equity, why should government support investment. Sell, get a more affordable property or use the profit from the sale to rent.

What mortgage holders are now experiencing has been a fact of life that the increasing amount of people who rent have been suffering with for years.
Is there any evidence for this? I would imagine lots of people have continually remortgaged and drawn down on the value of their homes, as we've been encouraged to do so ever since the 1980s.
If they have already spent their equity it still doesn't warrant the government giving them benefits
There are 20 & 30 somethings now paying mortgages of £1250 a month after recent Interest rate rises pushed the mortgage up from £900 a month . Duriing the pandemic evictions were banned the least they can do is ban repossessions & defaults , force banks & building societies to help people now .

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:28 pm
by The Mindsweep
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:12 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:20 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:12 am

Is there any evidence for this? I would imagine lots of people have continually remortgaged and drawn down on the value of their homes, as we've been encouraged to do so ever since the 1980s.
If they have already spent their equity it still doesn't warrant the government giving them benefits
There are 20 & 30 somethings now paying mortgages of £1250 a month after recent Interest rate rises pushed the mortgage up from £900 a month . Duriing the pandemic evictions were banned the least they can do is ban repossessions & defaults , force banks & building societies to help people now .
There are 20 & 30 somethings paying £900 renting and sharing with others. The money they pay is investing in their landlords property portfolio, not their own. Can they ban rent increases?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:56 pm
by Max Fowler
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:20 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:12 am
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:52 am
Most will have plenty of equity, why should government support investment. Sell, get a more affordable property or use the profit from the sale to rent.

What mortgage holders are now experiencing has been a fact of life that the increasing amount of people who rent have been suffering with for years.
Is there any evidence for this? I would imagine lots of people have continually remortgaged and drawn down on the value of their homes, as we've been encouraged to do so ever since the 1980s.
If they have already spent their equity it still doesn't warrant the government giving them benefits
I'm not sure support should be based on previous behaviours. That's a dangerous path to go down.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:00 pm
by The Mindsweep
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:56 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:20 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:12 am

Is there any evidence for this? I would imagine lots of people have continually remortgaged and drawn down on the value of their homes, as we've been encouraged to do so ever since the 1980s.
If they have already spent their equity it still doesn't warrant the government giving them benefits
I'm not sure support should be based on previous behaviours. That's a dangerous path to go down.
But they already do this, look at the bedroom tax and limiting of tax credits etc to 2 children

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:34 pm
by tuffers#1
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:28 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:12 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:20 pm

If they have already spent their equity it still doesn't warrant the government giving them benefits
There are 20 & 30 somethings now paying mortgages of £1250 a month after recent Interest rate rises pushed the mortgage up from £900 a month . Duriing the pandemic evictions were banned the least they can do is ban repossessions & defaults , force banks & building societies to help people now .
There are 20 & 30 somethings paying £900 renting and sharing with others. The money they pay is investing in their landlords property portfolio, not their own. Can they ban rent increases?
£1800 Rent in London for a flat. Where yyou getting this £900 figure ?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:52 pm
by The Mindsweep
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:34 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:28 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:12 pm

There are 20 & 30 somethings now paying mortgages of £1250 a month after recent Interest rate rises pushed the mortgage up from £900 a month . Duriing the pandemic evictions were banned the least they can do is ban repossessions & defaults , force banks & building societies to help people now .
There are 20 & 30 somethings paying £900 renting and sharing with others. The money they pay is investing in their landlords property portfolio, not their own. Can they ban rent increases?
£1800 Rent in London for a flat. Where yyou getting this £900 figure ?
Have a search, see what you can find, good luck

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:08 pm
by Proposition Joe
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:28 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:12 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:20 pm

If they have already spent their equity it still doesn't warrant the government giving them benefits
There are 20 & 30 somethings now paying mortgages of £1250 a month after recent Interest rate rises pushed the mortgage up from £900 a month . Duriing the pandemic evictions were banned the least they can do is ban repossessions & defaults , force banks & building societies to help people now .
There are 20 & 30 somethings paying £900 renting and sharing with others. The money they pay is investing in their landlords property portfolio, not their own. Can they ban rent increases?
Yeah, they probably could do a rent freeze if they wanted to. Absolutely understand the renter's predicaments - the system is f*cked and they're getting screwed - but as with many other things, the way forward is to help them *and* those with ever increasing mortgage payments, rather than say "well we're getting stuffed so you should be too".

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:28 pm
by The Mindsweep
The system is broken, we need to find a new and better one

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:31 pm
by Long slender neck
If you've gambled on a tracker or variable rate mortgage then you should face the consequences.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:19 pm
by tuffers#1
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:52 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:34 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:28 pm

There are 20 & 30 somethings paying £900 renting and sharing with others. The money they pay is investing in their landlords property portfolio, not their own. Can they ban rent increases?
£1800 Rent in London for a flat. Where yyou getting this £900 figure ?
Have a search, see what you can find, good luck
Why would I need luck & what am I searching for ?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:28 pm
by The Mindsweep
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:19 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:52 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:34 pm

£1800 Rent in London for a flat. Where yyou getting this £900 figure ?
Have a search, see what you can find, good luck
Why would I need luck & what am I searching for ?
You questioned where I was getting my £900pm for a share of a property in London. It was in response to your £1250pm for those that own their own home

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:54 pm
by tuffers#1
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:28 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:19 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:52 pm

Have a search, see what you can find, good luck
Why would I need luck & what am I searching for ?
You questioned where I was getting my £900pm for a share of a property in London. It was in response to your £1250pm for those that own their own home
Oh you mean a Bedroom .
For a man who is worried his wife & Child are about to made homeless according to his message to LK on tv this morning .

Im sure the offer you've given will help him
Because the interest rates have gone up down
to this sh!te government's incompetence .

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:05 pm
by The Mindsweep
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:54 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:28 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:19 pm

Why would I need luck & what am I searching for ?
You questioned where I was getting my £900pm for a share of a property in London. It was in response to your £1250pm for those that own their own home
Oh you mean a Bedroom .
For a man who is worried his wife & Child are about to made homeless according to his message to LK on tv this morning .

Im sure the offer you've given will help him
Because the interest rates have gone up down
to this sh!te government's incompetence .
Are you OK?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:11 pm
by tuffers#1
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:05 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:54 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:28 pm

You questioned where I was getting my £900pm for a share of a property in London. It was in response to your £1250pm for those that own their own home
Oh you mean a Bedroom .
For a man who is worried his wife & Child are about to made homeless according to his message to LK on tv this morning .

Im sure the offer you've given will help him
Because the interest rates have gone up down
to this sh!te government's incompetence .
Are you OK?
Im fine

Just Sick of this sh!t government voted in by
a Pathetic Majority of the voting Electorate ,
destroying Lives & putting peoples lives at risk
.

Suicide is being mentioned on a massive scale
all over radio shows & tv .

Still you dont seem to care much about them eh ?