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Stowaway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:15 pm I don’t think Peston is outraged in any way at all. He’s merely pointing out facts.

While you’re here, feel free to point out which parts of it are misleading.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:47 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:20 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:52 am Dohnut must be the most consistent boarder of all time. It has got to be difficult to get it so spectacularly wrong every time. Well done sir!

Not sure why you're bothering. It's like having a debate with a whoopee cushion.

No whoopee from me. Just find it amusing at people trying to excuse/minimise the current farcical state of the Labour party. 100 days in and everything that could go wrong, has. I use the word shambles. I’m being kind. Not just my view when you look at various polls. People need to face up to the shambolic start of the Labour years. One hope is these cock-ups soften the next budget a little as they try and get some credibility back.

Starmer is just out of his depth.

faldO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:42 pm

Stowaway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:30 am Seeing as Dohnut is a bit confused, here’s a Robert Peston piece that might help put him straight on a few things here.


There seems to be significant faux outrage from Tory leadership candidates Cleverly and Tugendhat about the Starmer government's transfer of the Chagos islands to Mauritius.
Official sources tell me the transfer would have happened in materially the same
way at roughly the same time if Sunak had somehow won the election.
The point is that the transfer was being negotiated on the recent Tory government's watch - including by Cleverly as foreign secretary and then by Cameron - and the deadline was in effect set by Washington.
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If anyone in the Tory party wants to know the nitty gritty of all this, possibly they could ask for an introduction from the former minister Lord Frost - because his spouse Harriet Matthews has been the lead official negotiator for the foreign office on the Chagos treaty with Mauritius.

This is faux outrage about faux outrage...

And some of Peston's statements, like the one about Cameron, are misleading.