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Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:07 pm
by Long slender neck
What can we do except start a nuclear war?

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:13 pm
by Mistadobalina
Becoming clear Ukraine should never have given up it's nukes. Once Russia turned its back on that agreement, the involvement of the UK or America as a guarantor was never gonna happen.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:37 pm
by Max B Gold
UK politics live: Boris Johnson says imposing no-fly zone over Ukraine ‘not on the agenda of any Nato country’


Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:44 pm
by Dunners
I reckon we'll see other bordering states now trying to obtain nukes. Especially Poland.

Anyway, this just in. Lukashenko, addressing his security council, with a map of Ukraine showing possible troop movements, infrastructure targets, and the country divided into four parts. Moldova should be worried.

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Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:08 pm
by Mistadobalina
But Moldova isn't trying to join NATO. What are Russia's Legitimate Security Concerns© there?

Belarus getting nukes is so f*cking bonkers and scary.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:16 pm
by tuffers#1
Long slender neck wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:07 pm What can we do except start a nuclear war?
Paint all planes with G Fawkes emblem & blame them for creating a no fly zone

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:17 pm
by Long slender neck
Guy aint even got a laser pointer.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:14 pm
by faldO
Max B Gold wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:37 pm UK politics live: Boris Johnson says imposing no-fly zone over Ukraine ‘not on the agenda of any Nato country’

Perhaps they should sell "I love Croatia" mugs for Diane Abbott - on Politics Live this lunchtime she thought Putin's tanks were rolling into Croatia and had to be corrected by the presenter.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:29 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Ah yes the former Shadow Home Secretary who said that the claims "Russia are the aggressor should be treated sceptically" and blamed NATO for the "destabilisation in the entire region" :clown

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:31 pm
by StockholmO

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:47 pm
by The Mindsweep
This is fascinating, worth reading the whole thread


Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:39 pm
by Max B Gold
faldO wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:14 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:37 pm UK politics live: Boris Johnson says imposing no-fly zone over Ukraine ‘not on the agenda of any Nato country’

Perhaps they should sell "I love Croatia" mugs for Diane Abbott - on Politics Live this lunchtime she thought Putin's tanks were rolling into Croatia and had to be corrected by the presenter.
I don't care what youse say I like her. Croatia should be on high alert. This time next week we will all be in the air and sun.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:14 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
How much longer can the West, stand by and watch Russia purpertrate these horrors in Ukraine?

If the Russians encircle Kyiv and starve the people into submission, will the West still just stand by and let this happen?

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:22 pm
by The Mindsweep
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:14 pm How much longer can the West, stand by and watch Russia purpertrate these horrors in Ukraine?

If the Russians encircle Kyiv and starve the people into submission, will the West still just stand by and let this happen?
We've done our bit years ago....apparently


Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:25 am
by RedDwarf 1881
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:14 pm How much longer can the West, stand by and watch Russia purpertrate these horrors in Ukraine?

If the Russians encircle Kyiv and starve the people into submission, will the West still just stand by and let this happen?
What would you have us do , start WW3 . However if one Belorussian or Russian boot steps into NATO territory then we’re in it.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:34 am
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:25 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:14 pm How much longer can the West, stand by and watch Russia purpertrate these horrors in Ukraine?

If the Russians encircle Kyiv and starve the people into submission, will the West still just stand by and let this happen?
What would you have us do , start WW3 . However if one Belorussian or Russian boot steps into NATO territory then we’re in it.
so we just watch & do nothing ? just nuke Putin pay a servant to novichok him .£5 million to the person or there family !

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:59 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Nothing more we can do unless NATO is attacked. By the way, WTF is the UN. Oh yeah, I read that one expert reckons there is a 20% chance Putin could launch a tactical nuclear weapon to explode in the sea between Britain and Denmark . I’m not able to do a link using my phone but you can see the article on the daily express website. If that happens it would be the biggest miscalculation in human history because we would have to respond likewise

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:55 am
by tuffers#1
" A world without Russia is a World that doesnt deserve to exist "

Yes Vlad maybe thats true .

But we can have a world without you .

Russia will still exist .
Putin wont .

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:37 am
by RedDwarf 1881

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:21 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
The express are known to be level headed and not sensational

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:40 am
by Dunners
Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:21 am
The express are known to be level headed and not sensational
I'll be disappointed if, should Russia nuke anywhere, the Express doesn't find Diana's image in the mushroom cloud.

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:42 am
by Currywurst and Chips
And a potential cure for dementia in the rubble

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:58 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:21 am
The express are known to be level headed and not sensational
Well I sincerely hope its bullshit . God forbid that ever happens but with that nutter Putin who knows .

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:33 am
by Mistadobalina
Sounds like the Russian sieges are starting to work, they've taken their first major city.

What's the plan after they've inevitably taken Kyiv, Lviv etc? They are going to be trying to manage one of the best armed, highly motivated insurgencies in history. Read this morning that there are tens of thousands of Ukrainian men actually returning to the country to join the fight.

The best case scenario for Russia is what, a Ukraine paralysed by a nationwide never ending civil war between some useless puppet regime and a western backed rebellion, draining whatever pennies Russia has left due to being absolutely whacked by sanctions. Maybe the non-west eases up on them a bit after a while in that scenario, but they are going to be pariahs in Europe as long as they are in Ukraine.

Presumably Putin thinks he can replicate the Chechen playbook and be so absolutely brutal that it stubs out any resistance?

Re: Russia / Ukraine Watch

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:18 pm
by Dunners
Roman Abramovich offers up Chelsea for sale at £3Billion.