Independent Leyton Orient Forum

There was a great bit of fat negativity when Jo Whiley interviewed Blur a couple of months ago. She was talking to Alex James, and he’d said something about cheese, and slimming down to get into his Britpop trousers, and I think someone said something about Alex’s weight loss to Damon, and you could hear the tyrannical band leader in his voice as he had barely disguised disgust and was just like”yeah… well. Don’t let that happen again, eh? No, seriously, what was that about? Don’t let it happen again”

Yeah, there are legions of social media ‘scolds’ who seem to think moral perfection is a reasonable expectation, and I agree with you that it doesn’t allow for the mess of being human.

I do think someone publicly apologising about having been publicly rude about somebody’s weight is fine, though.

I also think (we might have to agree to disagree here) both of these things are true:

— obesity is associated with loads of serious medical problems and should be treated as a public health issue

— ‘fatphobia’ is a useful shorthand for thinking about/talking about how we sort of collectively bully people with certain body types

Nails it.

LOL.

I...don't understand?

Oh, seen the still now. Snigger.

I get why major brands act like this, but I wonder if there would ever be any impact on sales if they just told the kind of people that would make a fuss about something like this to f*ck off.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 7:55 am I get why major brands act like this, but I wonder if there would ever be any impact on sales if they just told the kind of people that would make a fuss about something like this to f*ck off.

Agree tbh. Imagine it'd be cost neutral at worst, most of the social media outrage is usually from people who likely never buy or shop at the affected brand anyway.

Most people would never have noticed until it was pointed out. You can find a tenuous connection with anything if you are looking to be offended.

I don’t understand how one can have a career in advertising and not be aware of when a Christmas ad is going to fall foul of daily Mail readers though

Wait… I assumed this was just about “you can’t celebrate Christmas any more!” stuff. People think it’s burning the Palestinian flag?

CEB wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:43 am Wait… I assumed this was just about “you can’t celebrate Christmas any more!” stuff. People think it’s burning the Palestinian flag?

I think it is saying not everyone wears the daft hat in the cracker?

Had they been red and white , fans could have been offended

Well done, you’ve successfully understood the first bit of the story

Don't really ever feel sorry for PR types but this is such a lose/lose position for them. If they say nothing, it's apparently a scandal. If they say anything contrite, literally everyone gets upset - the permaoffended aren't satisfied, the gammons are furious at the capitulation to wokeness and everyone else thinks the whole thing is insane.

CEB wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:43 am Wait… I assumed this was just about “you can’t celebrate Christmas any more!” stuff. People think it’s burning the Palestinian flag?

Yup. This....

Italians also outraged

The backlash has already started

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:18 pm The backlash has already started

Hahahahaha

f...k the wokes.

Bird species names to be changed to fight racism and misogyny

https://news.yahoo.com/nearly-80-bird-s ... mOKaer_dEy

Is it April 1st?

Murdered toddler James Bulger's father has lashed out at the 'twisted' parole board hearing after his son's killer Jon Venables was allowed to miss it to protect his mental health.

Venables, now 41, failed to show up at his parole hearing and escaped listening to the victim impact statements being read out - including that of Ralph Bulger, James' father.

This was after he was permitted to have his hearing in private, to avoid the 'disproportionate emotional stress' to the killer.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 7:55 am I get why major brands act like this, but I wonder if there would ever be any impact on sales if they just told the kind of people that would make a fuss about something like this to f*ck off.

Like Gerald Ratner did with his £1 ear rings ?

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:20 pm Murdered toddler James Bulger's father has lashed out at the 'twisted' parole board hearing after his son's killer Jon Venables was allowed to miss it to protect his mental health.

Venables, now 41, failed to show up at his parole hearing and escaped listening to the victim impact statements being read out - including that of Ralph Bulger, James' father.

This was after he was permitted to have his hearing in private, to avoid the 'disproportionate emotional stress' to the killer.

Why would Ralph Bulgers impact statement matter to Venbles going back to Jail for chid porn ? Venables being released on licence is when his victim statement should have mattered surely not for why he went back to Jail in 2017 ?

Joe315 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:08 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:20 pm Murdered toddler James Bulger's father has lashed out at the 'twisted' parole board hearing after his son's killer Jon Venables was allowed to miss it to protect his mental health.

Venables, now 41, failed to show up at his parole hearing and escaped listening to the victim impact statements being read out - including that of Ralph Bulger, James' father.

This was after he was permitted to have his hearing in private, to avoid the 'disproportionate emotional stress' to the killer.

Why would Ralph Bulgers impact statement matter to Venbles going back to Jail for chid porn ? Venables being released on licence is when his victim statement should have mattered surely not for why he went back to Jail in 2017 ?

Rehabilitation perhaps?