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Re: Israel
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:40 pm
by Tuffers#2
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:18 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:51 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:45 pm
In peaceful times they generally do.
Was that pre 1918 under the rule of the Ottoman Empire ?
I have family and friends living there now, there has been more peaceful times in recent years. Tensions and flare ups but people have got on. There is an Orchestra based in Spain called the West East Divan whose President is Daniel Barenboim, made up of young people from all over the Middle East. They play music together they do not fight each other and the same thing happened in Israel.
That one example whilst being heart warming in the sense differences can be overcome , does not mean that people live in peace side by side. It only shows what is achievable if the Killing stops on both sides.
Re: Israel
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:01 pm
by Daily Express bot
Joe315 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:40 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:18 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:51 pm
Was that pre 1918 under the rule of the Ottoman Empire ?
I have family and friends living there now, there has been more peaceful times in recent years. Tensions and flare ups but people have got on. There is an Orchestra based in Spain called the West East Divan whose President is Daniel Barenboim, made up of young people from all over the Middle East. They play music together they do not fight each other and the same thing happened in Israel.
That one example whilst being heart warming in the sense differences can be overcome , does not mean that people live in peace side by side. It only shows what is achievable if the Killing stops on both sides.
Indeed it does, let’s hope there is lasting peace.
Re: Israel
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:22 pm
by Tuffers#2
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:01 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:40 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:18 pm
I have family and friends living there now, there has been more peaceful times in recent years. Tensions and flare ups but people have got on. There is an Orchestra based in Spain called the West East Divan whose President is Daniel Barenboim, made up of young people from all over the Middle East. They play music together they do not fight each other and the same thing happened in Israel.
That one example whilst being heart warming in the sense differences can be overcome , does not mean that people live in peace side by side. It only shows what is achievable if the Killing stops on both sides.
Indeed it does, let’s hope there is lasting peace.
Lets hope the killing stops, only then can some form of lasting peace begin to start.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:06 am
by Tuffers#2
Israel demands 1 Million Palestinians to evacute the north of Gaza. Who or what the hell do they think they are ? U.N calls it damaging. Is the World going to watch a Genocide ?
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:24 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Joe315 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:06 am
Israel demands 1 Million Palestinians to evacute the north of Gaza. Who or what the hell do they think they are ? U.N calls it damaging. Is the World going to watch a Genocide ?
The consequences of tying in anti Zionism to anti semitism. Silence.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:57 am
by Long slender neck
They're trying to avoid civilian casualties. Hamas must be defeated.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:01 am
by Daily Express bot
Joe315 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:06 am
Israel demands 1 Million Palestinians to evacute the north of Gaza. Who or what the hell do they think they are ? U.N calls it damaging. Is the World going to watch a Genocide ?
You expect them to do nothing after recent atrocities? The World looked on whilst they were exterminated in the Holocaust, they are standing up for themselves.
Any attacks on Hamas will be intelligence led not indiscriminate like Hamas were killing parents in front of their children and children in front of their parents. Lily liveried ingratiating yourself to terrorist like Hamas creates long term potential problems for democratic countries like our own . You fuel their confidence to continue with their terrorism, encourage them and do nothing to solve the problem.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:28 am
by BoniO
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:01 am
Joe315 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:06 am
Israel demands 1 Million Palestinians to evacute the north of Gaza. Who or what the hell do they think they are ? U.N calls it damaging. Is the World going to watch a Genocide ?
You expect them to do nothing after recent atrocities? The World looked on whilst they were exterminated in the Holocaust, they are standing up for themselves.
Any attacks on Hamas will be intelligence led not indiscriminate like Hamas were killing parents in front of their children and children in front of their parents. Lily liveried ingratiating yourself to terrorist like Hamas creates long term potential problems for democratic countries like our own . You fuel their confidence to continue with their terrorism, encourage them and do nothing to solve the problem.
You are just making sh-it up you silly sausage.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:41 am
by Daily Express bot
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:28 am
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:01 am
Joe315 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:06 am
Israel demands 1 Million Palestinians to evacute the north of Gaza. Who or what the hell do they think they are ? U.N calls it damaging. Is the World going to watch a Genocide ?
You expect them to do nothing after recent atrocities? The World looked on whilst they were exterminated in the Holocaust, they are standing up for themselves.
Any attacks on Hamas will be intelligence led not indiscriminate like Hamas were killing parents in front of their children and children in front of their parents. Lily liveried ingratiating yourself to terrorist like Hamas creates long term potential problems for democratic countries like our own . You fuel their confidence to continue with their terrorism, encourage them and do nothing to solve the problem.
You are just making sh-it up you silly sausage.
Making what up, your response is so puerile I do not know what you mean.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:42 am
by FrankOFile
‘Antisemitic incidents in the UK have more than quadrupled since Hamas's attack on Israel, says a charity which helps Jewish people in the UK.’ (BBC)
Well, well. This has happened despite innocent Isreaelis being victims fo a brutal terrorism attack targeting babies, infants and women.
Add to this the moronic ‘protests’ by hate-filled idiots waving Palestinian flags and burning the Star of David. Of course, these protestors are only against the Zion state, not Jews per se. This is evidenced by their cries of ‘Death to Israel’, ‘Kill the Jews’ / ‘F*** the Jews’ and other eloquent chants.
All of this must gladden the hearts of the apologists like Bonio above who not only does not know his history, but is shaky with the present. One thing is for sure - the future is looking grim for innocents in Gaza and Israel.
What on earth were Hamas trying to achieve? They will reap what they have sown - misery.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:43 am
by FrankOFile
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:41 am
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:28 am
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:01 am
You expect them to do nothing after recent atrocities? The World looked on whilst they were exterminated in the Holocaust, they are standing up for themselves.
Any attacks on Hamas will be intelligence led not indiscriminate like Hamas were killing parents in front of their children and children in front of their parents. Lily liveried ingratiating yourself to terrorist like Hamas creates long term potential problems for democratic countries like our own . You fuel their confidence to continue with their terrorism, encourage them and do nothing to solve the problem.
You are just making sh-it up you silly sausage.
Making what up, your response is so puerile I do not know what you mean.
That is all the Bonios of this world have got. They confuse themselves with their own bigotry.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:46 am
by Admin
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:01 am
Joe315 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:06 am
Israel demands 1 Million Palestinians to evacute the north of Gaza. Who or what the hell do they think they are ? U.N calls it damaging. Is the World going to watch a Genocide ?
You expect them to do nothing after recent atrocities? The World looked on whilst they were exterminated in the Holocaust, they are standing up for themselves.
Any attacks on Hamas will be intelligence led not indiscriminate like Hamas were killing parents in front of their children and children in front of their parents. Lily liveried ingratiating yourself to terrorist like Hamas creates long term potential problems for democratic countries like our own . You fuel their confidence to continue with their terrorism, encourage them and do nothing to solve the problem.
Intelligence led? Like the carpet bombing over the last 4 days was meant to be of selected targets only?
Israel is demanding 1.1M Gazans relocate in 24 hours. This is clearly not possible and the UN has already said this will have "devastating humanitarian consequences". This is the result of the US and other Western Governments giving Israel a blank cheque to exact inhuman reprisals on innocent Palestinians, many of whom are children.
Once again, those supporting Israel in this endeavour need to understand that history didn't start last Saturday. You also need to understand that supporting Palestinian rights doesn't equate to supporting Hamas in it's acts of terrorism. The logic here seems to be that it's inhuman to kill innocent Israeli children and families but an acceptable consequence to bomb and starve innocent Palestinian children and families. Many of whom do not support Hamas.
Peace (or even a ceasefire at present) can only be achieved by dialogue. Israel's actions will provide justification for another generation of terrorists. And the cycle of killing will just continue.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:57 am
by Daily Express bot
Admin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:46 am
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:01 am
Joe315 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:06 am
Israel demands 1 Million Palestinians to evacute the north of Gaza. Who or what the hell do they think they are ? U.N calls it damaging. Is the World going to watch a Genocide ?
You expect them to do nothing after recent atrocities? The World looked on whilst they were exterminated in the Holocaust, they are standing up for themselves.
Any attacks on Hamas will be intelligence led not indiscriminate like Hamas were killing parents in front of their children and children in front of their parents. Lily liveried ingratiating yourself to terrorist like Hamas creates long term potential problems for democratic countries like our own . You fuel their confidence to continue with their terrorism, encourage them and do nothing to solve the problem.
Intelligence led? Like the carpet bombing over the last 4 days was meant to be of selected targets only?
Israel is demanding 1.1M Gazans relocate in 24 hours. This is clearly not possible and the UN has already said this will have "devastating humanitarian consequences". This is the result of the US and other Western Governments giving Israel a blank cheque to exact inhuman reprisals on innocent Palestinians, many of whom are children.
Once again, those supporting Israel in this endeavour need to understand that history didn't start last Saturday. You also need to understand that supporting Palestinian rights doesn't equate to supporting Hamas in it's acts of terrorism. The logic here seems to be that it's inhuman to kill innocent Israeli children and families but an acceptable consequence to bomb and starve innocent Palestinian children and families. Many of whom do not support Hamas.
Peace (or even a ceasefire at present) can only be achieved by dialogue. Israel's actions will provide justification for another generation of terrorists. And the cycle of killing will just continue.
It is intelligence led targeting. Israel are not interested in the past , it is the present that matters at this time. They have hostages held by Hamas .
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:58 am
by BoniO
FrankOFile wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:43 am
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:41 am
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:28 am
You are just making sh-it up you silly sausage.
Making what up, your response is so puerile I do not know what you mean.
That is all the Bonios of this world have got. They confuse themselves with their own bigotry.
Fame at last! I’ve got my own little stalker
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I may have mentioned this earlier but despising the State of Israel is not the same as hating Jews. I doubt you’ll take note of that because it doesn’t suit your narrative but it bears repeating all the same, you tiresome pillock.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:02 am
by BoniO
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:41 am
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:28 am
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:01 am
You expect them to do nothing after recent atrocities? The World looked on whilst they were exterminated in the Holocaust, they are standing up for themselves.
Any attacks on Hamas will be intelligence led not indiscriminate like Hamas were killing parents in front of their children and children in front of their parents. Lily liveried ingratiating yourself to terrorist like Hamas creates long term potential problems for democratic countries like our own . You fuel their confidence to continue with their terrorism, encourage them and do nothing to solve the problem.
You are just making sh-it up you silly sausage.
Making what up, your response is so puerile I do not know what you mean.
My apologies, I hadn’t realised I needed to point out that the Holocaust took place during WW2 when we were already at war with Nazi Germany. Not quite “the World looked on” is it really.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:04 am
by Admin
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:57 am
Admin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:46 am
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:01 am
You expect them to do nothing after recent atrocities? The World looked on whilst they were exterminated in the Holocaust, they are standing up for themselves.
Any attacks on Hamas will be intelligence led not indiscriminate like Hamas were killing parents in front of their children and children in front of their parents. Lily liveried ingratiating yourself to terrorist like Hamas creates long term potential problems for democratic countries like our own . You fuel their confidence to continue with their terrorism, encourage them and do nothing to solve the problem.
Intelligence led? Like the carpet bombing over the last 4 days was meant to be of selected targets only?
Israel is demanding 1.1M Gazans relocate in 24 hours. This is clearly not possible and the UN has already said this will have "devastating humanitarian consequences". This is the result of the US and other Western Governments giving Israel a blank cheque to exact inhuman reprisals on innocent Palestinians, many of whom are children.
Once again, those supporting Israel in this endeavour need to understand that history didn't start last Saturday. You also need to understand that supporting Palestinian rights doesn't equate to supporting Hamas in it's acts of terrorism. The logic here seems to be that it's inhuman to kill innocent Israeli children and families but an acceptable consequence to bomb and starve innocent Palestinian children and families. Many of whom do not support Hamas.
Peace (or even a ceasefire at present) can only be achieved by dialogue. Israel's actions will provide justification for another generation of terrorists. And the cycle of killing will just continue.
It is intelligence led targeting. Israel are not interested in the past , it is the present that matters at this time. They have hostages held by Hamas .
Oh ok. So the logic is Israel can commit war crimes on innocent people because a terrorist group has Israeli hostages? (We'll put aside the 1200 or so palestinians Israel is detaining without charge for the moment).
Actually, I'm out. If you're happy believing Israel's actions are fully justified I can't help you. It's a shame you're unable to grasp the principle that you that both Israel and Hamas are guilty of heinous wrongdoing.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:20 am
by Daily Express bot
Admin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:04 am
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:57 am
Admin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:46 am
Intelligence led? Like the carpet bombing over the last 4 days was meant to be of selected targets only?
Israel is demanding 1.1M Gazans relocate in 24 hours. This is clearly not possible and the UN has already said this will have "devastating humanitarian consequences". This is the result of the US and other Western Governments giving Israel a blank cheque to exact inhuman reprisals on innocent Palestinians, many of whom are children.
Once again, those supporting Israel in this endeavour need to understand that history didn't start last Saturday. You also need to understand that supporting Palestinian rights doesn't equate to supporting Hamas in it's acts of terrorism. The logic here seems to be that it's inhuman to kill innocent Israeli children and families but an acceptable consequence to bomb and starve innocent Palestinian children and families. Many of whom do not support Hamas.
Peace (or even a ceasefire at present) can only be achieved by dialogue. Israel's actions will provide justification for another generation of terrorists. And the cycle of killing will just continue.
It is intelligence led targeting. Israel are not interested in the past , it is the present that matters at this time. They have hostages held by Hamas .
Oh ok. So the logic is Israel can commit war crimes on innocent people because a terrorist group has Israeli hostages? (We'll put aside the 1200 or so palestinians Israel is detaining without charge for the moment).
Actually, I'm out. If you're happy believing Israel's actions are fully justified I can't help you. It's a shame you're unable to grasp the principle that you that both Israel and Hamas are guilty of heinous wrongdoing.
You fail to grasp the fact that Israel, recognised by the UN are a Democratic Sovereign State who were attacked last week by Hamas a terrorist organisation supported only by essentially rogue Despot states. At least they have warned civilians they are coming. I do not agree with any bloodshed or what is going on right now but understand why Israel has to act now.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:27 am
by Cheshunto
It’s a shame that Israeli Intelligence seemed to be ‘asleep’ when Hamas launched their initial attack last Saturday.
My heart goes out to the innocent victims on both sides although Hamas have woken a ‘sleeping giant ‘ with this action and will pay dearly I fear, as they should.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:38 am
by Admin
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:20 am
Admin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:04 am
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:57 am
It is intelligence led targeting. Israel are not interested in the past , it is the present that matters at this time. They have hostages held by Hamas .
Oh ok. So the logic is Israel can commit war crimes on innocent people because a terrorist group has Israeli hostages? (We'll put aside the 1200 or so palestinians Israel is detaining without charge for the moment).
Actually, I'm out. If you're happy believing Israel's actions are fully justified I can't help you. It's a shame you're unable to grasp the principle that you that both Israel and Hamas are guilty of heinous wrongdoing.
You fail to grasp the fact that Israel, recognised by the UN are a Democratic Sovereign State who were attacked last week by Hamas a terrorist organisation supported only by essentially rogue Despot states. At least they have warned civilians they are coming. I do not agree with any bloodshed or what is going on right now but understand why Israel has to act now.
Israel is committing war crimes whilst the West looks on approvingly. It's as simple as that. Glad you can live with it.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:44 am
by Max B Gold
Israel has dropped 6,000 bombs on Gaza in 6 days.
The latest toll: 1537 killed, including 500 children. 6,612 wounded, including 1,644 children, according to the Health Ministry in Gaza.
Genocide.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:48 am
by o-no
Cheshunto wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:27 am
It’s a shame that Israeli Intelligence seemed to be ‘asleep’ when Hamas launched their initial attack last Saturday.
My heart goes out to the innocent victims on both sides although Hamas have woken a ‘sleeping giant ‘ with this action and will pay dearly I fear, as they should.
Unless of course they did know and decided to overlook it so they had an opportunity to wipe out Hamas for good?
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:49 am
by Long slender neck
Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:50 am
by Max B Gold
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:24 am
Joe315 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:06 am
Israel demands 1 Million Palestinians to evacute the north of Gaza. Who or what the hell do they think they are ? U.N calls it damaging. Is the World going to watch a Genocide ?
The consequences of tying in anti Zionism to anti semitism. Silence.
Its a strange thing but he worst antisemites are the Zionists. They have brought violence against their fellow Jews on to the streets of Israel.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:51 am
by Max B Gold
o-no wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:48 am
Cheshunto wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:27 am
It’s a shame that Israeli Intelligence seemed to be ‘asleep’ when Hamas launched their initial attack last Saturday.
My heart goes out to the innocent victims on both sides although Hamas have woken a ‘sleeping giant ‘ with this action and will pay dearly I fear, as they should.
Unless of course they did know and decided to overlook it so they had an opportunity to wipe out Hamas for good?
Ideas are the hardest things to kill.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:55 am
by Daily Express bot
Admin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:38 am
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:20 am
Admin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:04 am
Oh ok. So the logic is Israel can commit war crimes on innocent people because a terrorist group has Israeli hostages? (We'll put aside the 1200 or so palestinians Israel is detaining without charge for the moment).
Actually, I'm out. If you're happy believing Israel's actions are fully justified I can't help you. It's a shame you're unable to grasp the principle that you that both Israel and Hamas are guilty of heinous wrongdoing.
You fail to grasp the fact that Israel, recognised by the UN are a Democratic Sovereign State who were attacked last week by Hamas a terrorist organisation supported only by essentially rogue Despot states. At least they have warned civilians they are coming. I do not agree with any bloodshed or what is going on right now but understand why Israel has to act now.
Israel is committing war crimes whilst the West looks on approvingly. It's as simple as that. Glad you can live with it.
Are these War Crimes proven or in your option? I am sure if there are such then they will be investigated and those responsible charged. Blair was accused of War Crimes but nothing come of it . In fact he is now advising Starmer who is odds on to becoming our next PM. How does that square with you?
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