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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:07 pm
by BoniO
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:54 am
BoniO wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:38 am
Dunners wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:19 am The Coronovirus Bill is scheduled to become an Act of Parliament by the end of this month. It covers everything from burials, holding those who threaten national security for longer, closing borders, to empowering the police to quarantine those with the virus, and much more.

You can read a summary of the Bill here.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ll-will-do
"by the end of the month" well that's OK then. Not as if there's any need to rush here is there. I'm sure the virus will take a breather for a couple of weeks to allow the government to sort itself out.
How do you suggest he could speed up its passage into law?
Other Countries have declared a state of Emergency or a state of War which enables them to take immediate actions.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:19 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
BoniO wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:07 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:54 am
BoniO wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:38 am

"by the end of the month" well that's OK then. Not as if there's any need to rush here is there. I'm sure the virus will take a breather for a couple of weeks to allow the government to sort itself out.
How do you suggest he could speed up its passage into law?
Other Countries have declared a state of Emergency or a state of War which enables them to take immediate actions.
Interesting, so you support enacting the provisions within the Civil Contingencies Act to give Boris carte blanche to amend legislation at a whim? Without consulting parliament or opposition.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:27 pm
by BoniO
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:19 pm
BoniO wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:07 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:54 am

How do you suggest he could speed up its passage into law?
Other Countries have declared a state of Emergency or a state of War which enables them to take immediate actions.
Interesting, so you support enacting the provisions within the Civil Contingencies Act to give Boris carte blanche to amend legislation at a whim? Without consulting parliament or opposition.
Haha - in the circumstances we now face do you believe that debating policy in Parliament and thus delaying actions by weeks is the correct option?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:45 pm
by Dunners
Anyone else catch PMQs?

Interesting that UBI is being considered. Also, Theresa May asked about an exit strategy. Johnson's lack of response suggests that nobody is seriously planning that far ahead yet.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:58 pm
by Lovejoy
Coronavirus UK LIVE: Schools will stay open 'for now' as supermarkets begin rationing food and purchases to prevent stock-piling.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/c ... spartanntp

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:18 pm
by Lovejoy
The £ has fallen to a new low against the US$, even lower than when the nation voted for Brexit.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:26 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Lovejoy wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:58 pm Coronavirus UK LIVE: Schools will stay open 'for now' as supermarkets begin rationing food and purchases to prevent stock-piling.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/c ... spartanntp
Schools in Wales to close.

Schools in Scotchland (didn't realise they had them) to close.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:33 pm
by StillSpike
Wife's college (in Scotchland) closing on Friday - all face to face teaching stopped from tonight. Everything going online and everyone working from home (quite how a theatre lighting technician can work from home ..... well we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:43 pm
by StillSpike

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:52 pm
by BoniO
StillSpike wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:43 pm South Korea playing it cool

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... 1584540719
And following WHO guidelines to test as much as possible. Why don't we do the same? I really don't understand why and I've never seen a clear explanation from the government.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:01 pm
by slacker
It’s got seriously alarming now: Beeb stops filming Eastenders and other soapy guff ;)

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:13 pm
by Dunners
Eurovision cancelled!

When will this end?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:17 pm
by Chicken Dhansak
Isn't just great when Spen666 can't pontificate over everything.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:44 pm
by Lovejoy
Coronavirus UK LIVE: Boris Johnson says schools in England to close as death toll rises to 104.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/c ... spartanntp

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:59 pm
by Max B Gold
BoniO wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:52 pm
StillSpike wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:43 pm South Korea playing it cool

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... 1584540719
And following WHO guidelines to test as much as possible. Why don't we do the same? I really don't understand why and I've never seen a clear explanation from the government.
It costs money and proles are expendable. I'm surprised you don't understand this.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:46 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Dunners wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:52 pm Death toll in Italy reported to have increased by 16% in 24 hours.

That's proper scary.
20% increase today https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51952712

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:50 pm
by Dunners
Those multipliers are terrifying. And Italy's not even near its 'peak' yet.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:12 pm
by Stowaway
Looks like Italy is the guinea pig for how not to deal with the initial stages. I’ve no idea what they did wrong but it’s biting them on the arse now.

As for Asia, my kid lives in Saigon and as his school made them take their summer holiday over the last two weeks he went off to Langkawi in Malaysia. He’s now stuck there with a girl friend he met three weeks ago because the Malaysian govt has put the entire county into lockdown. They had to deal with SARS and MURS back in the early 00’s, and they’re taking this very seriously indeed.

He says by the end of this they’ll either have killed each other or got married :)

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:21 pm
by tuffers#1
I have a theory of why Italy maybe getting hammered.

The worlds biggest Mens fashion show takes place twice a year in Italy
Its called Pitti Uomo , it runs in early January & late july every year.

The.worlds biggest market for top end Fashion is now China .
All the Worlds ( Italian houses ) leading fashion houses al have offices showrooms in
Milan , most of there factories are based in Northern italy Bergamo Bologna & so on .

The disease hit China probably in December & would have had time to spread .
As hundreds possibly thousands of Chinese buyers would have been in Northern Italy
It is easy to see why it may have taken hold there .

I am not saying this is the reason , but it could well be connected.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:22 pm
by Lucky7
Stowaway wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:12 pm Looks like Italy is the guinea pig for how not to deal with the initial stages. I’ve no idea what they did wrong but it’s biting them on the arse now.

As for Asia, my kid lives in Saigon and as his school made them take their summer holiday over the last two weeks he went off to Langkawi in Malaysia. He’s now stuck there with a girl friend he met three weeks ago because the Malaysian govt has put the entire county into lockdown. They had to deal with SARS and MURS back in the early 00’s, and they’re taking this very seriously indeed.

He says by the end of this they’ll either have killed each other or got married :)
Mers not to be confused with Murs X factor contestant

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:26 pm
by Lucky7
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:21 pm I have a theory of why Italy maybe getting hammered.

The worlds biggest Mens fashion show takes place twice a year in Italy
Its called Pitti Uomo , it runs in early January & late july every year.

The.worlds biggest market for top end Fashion is now China .
All the Worlds ( Italian houses ) leading fashion houses al have offices showrooms in
Milan , most of there factories are based in Northern italy Bergamo Bologna & so on .

The disease hit China probably in December & would have had time to spread .
As hundreds possibly thousands of Chinese buyers would have been in Northern Italy
It is easy to see why it may have taken hold there .

I am not saying this is the reason , but it could well be connected.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.stan ... html%3famp

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:32 pm
by Lucky7

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:37 pm
by tuffers#1
Lucky7 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:26 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:21 pm I have a theory of why Italy maybe getting hammered.

The worlds biggest Mens fashion show takes place twice a year in Italy
Its called Pitti Uomo , it runs in early January & late july every year.

The.worlds biggest market for top end Fashion is now China .
All the Worlds ( Italian houses ) leading fashion houses al have offices showrooms in
Milan , most of there factories are based in Northern italy Bergamo Bologna & so on .

The disease hit China probably in December & would have had time to spread .
As hundreds possibly thousands of Chinese buyers would have been in Northern Italy
It is easy to see why it may have taken hold there .

I am not saying this is the reason , but it could well be connected.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.stan ... html%3famp
These are launches by houses to the world of last years seasons orders.
In other words 2020 fashions.


Piti Uomo happend on around the 7th-10th of January & is in house only for retailers
& is for 2021 season Where buyers are placing orders viewing sample merchandise
For nxt year.

Coronovirus didnt start ploughing through Wuhan/China untill mid to late January.
So I still think it was possible.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:40 pm
by Lucky7
I keep hearing people saying
Coronavirus will go away in Summer months.

Personally I think this is wrong.
Previous pandemics didn’t follow weather patterns plus as we enter summer, there will be winter in the Southern Hemisphere. Virus is global.

Just my opinion

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:41 pm
by tuffers#1
I wouldnt disagree with that

Spanish flu was how long
1918 - 1920 wasnt it .

This could be as long .