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You never know. Strange things happen in politics.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:46 am Considering the negligible growth in Labour votes and the reform success do we just see the tories now lurch even further right and sweep the next election?
Wonder if Farage is considering crossing the floor to the tories so he can contest the leadership
I think this is a fair prediction.
She made the choice to run as an independant.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:45 amAll so avoidable.
The fact Starmer would rather have IDS in Parliament than a troublesome pro-Palestinian leftie is worrying.
Wrong.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:57 amFixed that for you.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:46 am Congratulations to Shama Tatlrer, Tory enabler careerist. Another 4 years of Iain Duncan Smith.
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And why was that?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:15 amShe made the choice to run as an independant.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:45 amAll so avoidable.
The fact Starmer would rather have IDS in Parliament than a troublesome pro-Palestinian leftie is worrying.
I think Chas has opted for a kiss on both cheeks instead in the interest of hygiene
Apparently the bookies have him as 4th or 5th favourite to take over the Tories . It would be interesting to see considering Reform came second in 98 constituencies . Anyway the other points for me from last night was Reform getting four MP's . I don't think people realise just how hard it is for a relatively new party to break into parliament . Just ask George Galloways Workers Party . With four MP's and a strong showing nationally Nigel will make sure there is no back sliding by Starmer on his statement regarding not rejoining the EU. Penny Mordaunt was the only Tory I was sorry to see lose her seat . I thought she was a formidable MP but she was surrounded by idiots on the front bench and she paid the price . The Tories made a mistake not making her leader when Boris left . I think things would have turned out differently . Last but by no means least , the thumping the SNP took last night . That's put independence to bed , thank you and good night . William Wallace must be spinning in his grave .EliotNes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:07 amYou never know. Strange things happen in politics.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:46 am Considering the negligible growth in Labour votes and the reform success do we just see the tories now lurch even further right and sweep the next election?
Wonder if Farage is considering crossing the floor to the tories so he can contest the leadership
. For all our sakes I hope I hope Starmer turns out to be a good Prime Minster . I wonder what the next four years are going to bring . We'll have to wait and see .98 2nds & 4 M.Ps, that's a worse strike rate than PigottRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:49 amApparently the bookies have him as 4th or 5th favourite to take over the Tories . It would be interesting to see considering Reform came second in 98 constituencies . Anyway the other points for me from last night was Reform getting four MP's . I don't think people realise just how hard it is for a relatively new party to break into parliament . Just ask George Galloways Workers Party . With four MP's and a strong showing nationally Nigel will make sure there is no back sliding by Starmer on his statement regarding not rejoining the EU. Penny Mordaunt was the only Tory I was sorry to see lose her seat . I thought she was a formidable MP but she was surrounded by idiots on the front bench and she paid the price . The Tories made a mistake not making her leader after Boris left . I think things would have turned out differently . Last but by no means least , the thumping the SNP took last night . That's put independence to bed , thank you and good night . William Wallace must be spinning in his grave .EliotNes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:07 amYou never know. Strange things happen in politics.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:46 am Considering the negligible growth in Labour votes and the reform success do we just see the tories now lurch even further right and sweep the next election?
Wonder if Farage is considering crossing the floor to the tories so he can contest the leadership
Oh , just one last thought . When the Tories won the last election there was thousands of left wingers rioting in Whitehall just after the result was known . Now the boot is on the other foot where is the right wingers . Nothing but crickets and tumble weeds . Shows which side is the most tolerant of other peoples views
I can feel your pain even from here . Look mate , the sale of blue and white face paint is now over . Look on the bright side all those SNP' MP's can now get a seat in that camper vanCeltient wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:59 am A Westminster election has no bearing on Scottish independence. Many SNP supporters will have lent their vote to Labour just to oust the Tories. There is little point in SNP MP's actually being at Westminster in reality as they are outnumbered and ignored. The Scottish elections are what really matters in terms of pushing for independence and I suspect that Labour will not see the same level of success there
That's the problem with our electoral system . I can't help feeling it's set up to keep the big two in power .Brigs wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:01 am98 2nds & 4 M.Ps, that's a worse strike rate than PigottRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:49 amApparently the bookies have him as 4th or 5th favourite to take over the Tories . It would be interesting to see considering Reform came second in 98 constituencies . Anyway the other points for me from last night was Reform getting four MP's . I don't think people realise just how hard it is for a relatively new party to break into parliament . Just ask George Galloways Workers Party . With four MP's and a strong showing nationally Nigel will make sure there is no back sliding by Starmer on his statement regarding not rejoining the EU. Penny Mordaunt was the only Tory I was sorry to see lose her seat . I thought she was a formidable MP but she was surrounded by idiots on the front bench and she paid the price . The Tories made a mistake not making her leader after Boris left . I think things would have turned out differently . Last but by no means least , the thumping the SNP took last night . That's put independence to bed , thank you and good night . William Wallace must be spinning in his grave .
Oh , just one last thought . When the Tories won the last election there was thousands of left wingers rioting in Whitehall just after the result was known . Now the boot is on the other foot where is the right wingers . Nothing but crickets and tumble weeds . Shows which side is the most tolerant of other peoples views
Perfect. We've gone from denying the riots which did actually happen on January 6 to making up ones that didn't happen in 2019.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:49 am
Oh , just one last thought . When the Tories won the last election there was thousands of left wingers rioting in Whitehall just after the result . Now the boot is on the other foot where is the right wingers . Nothing but crickets and tumble weeds . Shows which side is the most tolerant of other peoples views
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:12 amThat's the problem with our electoral system . I can't help feeling it's set up to keep the big two in power . Edit . I have just found out that under proportional representation Reform would have won 93 seats .Brigs wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:01 am98 2nds & 4 M.Ps, that's a worse strike rate than PigottRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:49 am
Apparently the bookies have him as 4th or 5th favourite to take over the Tories . It would be interesting to see considering Reform came second in 98 constituencies . Anyway the other points for me from last night was Reform getting four MP's . I don't think people realise just how hard it is for a relatively new party to break into parliament . Just ask George Galloways Workers Party . With four MP's and a strong showing nationally Nigel will make sure there is no back sliding by Starmer on his statement regarding not rejoining the EU. Penny Mordaunt was the only Tory I was sorry to see lose her seat . I thought she was a formidable MP but she was surrounded by idiots on the front bench and she paid the price . The Tories made a mistake not making her leader after Boris left . I think things would have turned out differently . Last but by no means least , the thumping the SNP took last night . That's put independence to bed , thank you and good night . William Wallace must be spinning in his grave .
Oh , just one last thought . When the Tories won the last election there was thousands of left wingers rioting in Whitehall just after the result was known . Now the boot is on the other foot where is the right wingers . Nothing but crickets and tumble weeds . Shows which side is the most tolerant of other peoples views
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12172 ... ing-streetProposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:12 amPerfect. We've gone from denying the riots which did actually happen on January 6 to making up ones that didn't happen in 2019.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:49 am
Oh , just one last thought . When the Tories won the last election there was thousands of left wingers rioting in Whitehall just after the result . Now the boot is on the other foot where is the right wingers . Nothing but crickets and tumble weeds . Shows which side is the most tolerant of other peoples views
Of course it isn't, however at the moment there are only 2 that are serious about winning .RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:12 amThat's the problem with our electoral system . I can't help feeling it's set up to keep the big two in power .Brigs wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:01 am98 2nds & 4 M.Ps, that's a worse strike rate than PigottRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:49 am
Apparently the bookies have him as 4th or 5th favourite to take over the Tories . It would be interesting to see considering Reform came second in 98 constituencies . Anyway the other points for me from last night was Reform getting four MP's . I don't think people realise just how hard it is for a relatively new party to break into parliament . Just ask George Galloways Workers Party . With four MP's and a strong showing nationally Nigel will make sure there is no back sliding by Starmer on his statement regarding not rejoining the EU. Penny Mordaunt was the only Tory I was sorry to see lose her seat . I thought she was a formidable MP but she was surrounded by idiots on the front bench and she paid the price . The Tories made a mistake not making her leader after Boris left . I think things would have turned out differently . Last but by no means least , the thumping the SNP took last night . That's put independence to bed , thank you and good night . William Wallace must be spinning in his grave .
Oh , just one last thought . When the Tories won the last election there was thousands of left wingers rioting in Whitehall just after the result was known . Now the boot is on the other foot where is the right wingers . Nothing but crickets and tumble weeds . Shows which side is the most tolerant of other peoples views
Still more though than turned up last night to cause troubleRich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:22 am I was actually there in 2019 the day after the election. Would hardly call it a riot. It was a bunch of angry people protesting and a few morons. Not exactly storming the capital building…oh that didn’t happen
No pain here mate. Couldn't care less whether the Labour Tories or Tory Tories are in power at Westminster. It's not as if I was expecting SNP to be in power thereRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:05 amI can feel your pain even from here . Look mate , the sale of blue and white face paint is now over . Look on the bright side all those SNP' MP's can now get a seat in that camper vanCeltient wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:59 am A Westminster election has no bearing on Scottish independence. Many SNP supporters will have lent their vote to Labour just to oust the Tories. There is little point in SNP MP's actually being at Westminster in reality as they are outnumbered and ignored. The Scottish elections are what really matters in terms of pushing for independence and I suspect that Labour will not see the same level of success there
Lol if only the Right wing under Trumpet were as invisible on January 6thRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:25 amStill more though than turned up last night to cause troubleRich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:22 am I was actually there in 2019 the day after the election. Would hardly call it a riot. It was a bunch of angry people protesting and a few morons. Not exactly storming the capital building…oh that didn’t happen
