Independent Leyton Orient Forum

I confess that I find this debate difficult to follow.
The report states "Children can catch and spread coronavirus but are unlikely to become very sick with it." Note "Catch and Spread."
We are told the virus spreads most effectively in the home.
When children congregate in schools, do they not carry with them and share infections from home?
Do they not then carry more virus back with them and pass it on to their family?
Sounds dangerous when you put it like that, doesn't it? And yet, all we hear is the mantra "Schools are Safe." 'Guess that means all things to all men.
Have we not seen a massive reduction in cases since schools were closed down?
Just coincidence? Dunno, perhaps I've missed something.

120,000 deaths passed

A 100,000 more than they stated back in march to us .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:28 am 120,000 deaths passed

A 100,000 more than they stated back in march to us .

How many never had covid tuffers? Read the news report, lies from government has inflated the number unnecessarily.

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:41 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:28 am 120,000 deaths passed

A 100,000 more than they stated back in march to us .

How many never had covid tuffers? Read the news report, lies from government has inflated the number unnecessarily.

Thor the Conspiracy Theorist back in the building !

Quoting the Daily Fail .

Picnics outdoors with one other household in two weeks!

Thank you Daddy Boris

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:16 am Picnics outdoors with one other household in two weeks!

Thank you Daddy Boris

Plenty of that going on at Highams Park yesterday - huge queue for Ice Creams by the lake.

And before you ask, I was driving past having dropped off some provisions to my parents.

Yup, compliance way down from a low bar. Basically normality without old people and everything is shut

Typical govt policy, just announce what people are already doing.

No pubs until May

Admin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:49 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:16 am Picnics outdoors with one other household in two weeks!

Thank you Daddy Boris

Plenty of that going on at Highams Park yesterday - huge queue for Ice Creams by the lake.

And before you ask, I was driving past having dropped off some provisions to my parents.

Personally didn't expect anything else weather has been awful for the last couple of weeks people just want to get out of their houses.

Australian tennis fans "booed the vaccine" at the weekend:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-56150021
Covid: Australian Open fans criticised for 'booing vaccine'

Looks like they and their New Zealand neighbours are just happy to keep the doors shut forever.

Oxford/AZ vaccine shown to be 94% effective in reducing hospitalizations.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vac ... s-12225532

The EU and respective leader's decision to smear it for political purposes, namely their failure in procurement, clusterfuck over Ireland and need to out-do the UK is now having real World implications.

Tegel vaccination centres in Berlin, which give only the AstraZeneca product, fewer than 200 people are turning up for the 3,800 daily appointments.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germ ... -hpvh6rh6r

So has it been officially announced what's happening cos there doesn't seem to be a speech by Boris at 5 as there is normally

BIGRON wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:07 pm So has it been officially announced what's happening cos there doesn't seem to be a speech by Boris at 5 as there is normally

Telling parliament at 3.30 isnt he

Press conference at 7

Story of O wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:23 pm Press conference at 7

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:14 pm

BIGRON wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:07 pm So has it been officially announced what's happening cos there doesn't seem to be a speech by Boris at 5 as there is normally

Telling parliament at 3.30 isnt he

Yep we're all gonna be waiting a least a three months to have a pint indoors, if you fancy freezing your balls off you might have a chance outdoors in the middle of April.

JimbO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:57 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:14 pm

BIGRON wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:07 pm So has it been officially announced what's happening cos there doesn't seem to be a speech by Boris at 5 as there is normally

Telling parliament at 3.30 isnt he

Yep we're all gonna be waiting a least a three months to have a pint indoors, if you fancy freezing your balls off you might have a chance outdoors in the middle of April.

Not even a Scotch.Egg to warm you up.either.!!

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:23 pm Oxford/AZ vaccine shown to be 94% effective in reducing hospitalizations.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vac ... s-12225532

The EU and respective leader's decision to smear it for political purposes, namely their failure in procurement, clusterfuck over Ireland and need to out-do the UK is now having real World implications.

Tegel vaccination centres in Berlin, which give only the AstraZeneca product, fewer than 200 people are turning up for the 3,800 daily appointments.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germ ... -hpvh6rh6r

In the UK, 27 out of every 100 people have now received a vaccine jab.

In the EU it's just 6 out of 100. They've really f*cked this up.

I think i might have covid and if this is it, what is all the fuss about?

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:12 pm I think i might have covid and if this is it, what is all the fuss about?

Now, is this the Stupidest Post Ever or the Unfunniest Joke Ever, or both?

Wally Banter wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:27 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:12 pm I think i might have covid and if this is it, what is all the fuss about?

Now, is this the Stupidest Post Ever or the Unfunniest Joke Ever, or both?

Both. Its something Thor does well.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:12 pm I think i might have covid and if this is it, what is all the fuss about?

I could answer this giving the full tough details. But I won’t. You are just a fecking idiot and if this post gets me a ban, so be it.

This is a nasty virus with sh*t side effects. So feck off and grow up you idiot.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:12 pm I think i might have covid and if this is it, what is all the fuss about?

Thor sometimes you are a pillock.

Have some respect for those who have lost friends and family.

My father died at then end of January as a covid statistic. There were many things wrong with him such that it would be hard to say that he was killed by covid. So yes that might fit with the argument of some that covid is being exaggerated.

On the other hand the pandemic had a terrible impact on his last year here (various hospitalisations with no visiting etc). The good thing was that as he was considered 'end of life' at his last hospital admission I was able to spend a last week with him. That did give me some insight into what was happening in our hospitals (in London albeit at the height of the pandemic, I suppose). It was almost entirely in emergency mode - pop-up wards were appearing overnight. Staff who had been out of practice for some time were being drafted back in to deal with covid. What they don't dwell on in the news is the sheer number of patients are really quite ill with covid (and they might have other things wrong in addition) - they are not in intensive care but are very ill. I saw worn out, demoralised staff . . . scared student nurses doing full shifts (who are not even paid top be there!! they are paying to study!) - whose family did not want to see them.

To cap things off for me - I caught covid. I am a fit 50 something (I cycle a lot, swim and do a bit of running). It was scary - for 2 days I was really quite ill. At one point, after I passed out, an ambulance was on its way but the queue was too big and it was triaged away. I had my own oximeter (every home should have one - seriously) and we could tell paramedics that my oxygen levels had stopped falling and stabilised. For the best part of 2 weeks I fitted the description of 'mild covid' - I slipped into 'moderate' for a couple of days. I have to say that the words 'mild and moderate' are doing a lot of work in this pandemic! I was really quite ill.

I am now properly recovering - week 3 of recovery. I am still only walking quite slowly but over 40-50 minutes. I can only work because I am working from home - and I imagine it will be a couple more weeks at least before I am running again.

Please don't let anyone tell you that this is not serious.