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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:24 pm
by Stowaway
As a warning, my brother Dave, a lifelong O’s fan, and now 63, tested positive yesterday. He felt fine and had a bit of a coughing fit, and his wife gave him a self-test kit, just in case. It came back positive, so they both went for a proper test and had it confirmed. His wife tested negative.
He’s no idea how he contracted it - he’s retired, has played it very safe by staying home, wearing a mask every time he leaves the house and has only been for walks and to the shops now and then. Luckily he’s pretty fit and says he feels fine, but he’s got a nervy couple of weeks ahead, as have I worrying about him. It just goes to show how virulent this bugger is (the virus, not my brother).

Stay safe, folks.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:53 pm
by tuffers#1
Constanza wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:08 pm Off work till March 5th for me here in Ireland.
Running out of rooms to paint so hoping for better weather so I paint the garden as well.
Is there an offer on green paint for grass Connie ?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:02 pm
by faldO
Interesting interview with the CEO of AstraZeneca about different aspects of the AZ/Oxford vaccine (production logistics, delivery schedules, efficacy).

https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/ ... 284349628/

It's a bit long but worth persevering with.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:44 am
by Dunners
Dunners wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:17 pm We appear to be inching towards a mandatory hotel quarantine for all international arrivals. I get why the government are considering this, but quite how they're going to manage the 8,000 Heathrow daily arrivals with just 10,000 local hotel beds will be interesting.

I guess that they're probably hoping that the mandatory quarantine will put off some of those who are still travelling. However, I doubt that anyone is travelling right now for luxury reasons.

Also, this could make the Irish/Northern Irish boarder interesting.
The answer would appear to be that we'll only impose this on travellers from certain countries identified as high risk.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:12 am
by BIGRON
Just read that 31 police officers had hair cuts at our local police station ( Bethnal Green ) last week , all face £200 fines ( dear haircut that ) and the guy who organised it faces POSSIBLE disciplinary action 🤔🤔

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:51 am
by Mistadobalina
The UK now has the highest death rate in Europe and the worst in the developed world. Beyond bleak.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:38 pm
by y o y o y
BIGRON wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:12 am Just read that 31 police officers had hair cuts at our local police station ( Bethnal Green ) last week , all face £200 fines ( dear haircut that ) and the guy who organised it faces POSSIBLE disciplinary action 🤔🤔
It's a fair crop

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:11 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Looking at this thread and the almost universal narrative across traditional and social media, man China have played an absolute blinder PR wise.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:40 pm
by Real Al
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:11 pm Looking at this thread and the almost universal narrative across traditional and social media, man China have played an absolute blinder PR wise.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ijing.html

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:30 pm
by Thor
Looks like we are now living in a prison, if you want to leave you must submit a written letter explaining why you want to leave and going on holiday will not be a reason for you to leave the uk.

Rather than leave it open to abuse just lock the whole bloody thing down.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:02 pm
by o-no
Thor wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:30 pm Looks like we are now living in a prison, if you want to leave you must submit a written letter explaining why you want to leave and going on holiday will not be a reason for you to leave the uk.

Rather than leave it open to abuse just lock the whole bloody thing down.
Agree. If you leave any wriggle room you can bet slebs and “influencers” will take the p.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:12 pm
by Long slender neck
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... commission

This just seems despicable from the EU. They want to block us getting vaccines, because they were late ordering theirs.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:00 am
by Flying Hippo
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:12 pm https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... commission

This just seems despicable from the EU. They want to block us getting vaccines, because they were late ordering theirs.
The silence is deafening.

Typically despicable. The EU is a bloated, unwieldy, useless totalitarian blob whose primary purpose is to satisfy the Prussians' insatiable requirement to dominate inferior European states whilst the French and sundry francophones hang on their coattails and provide the bureaucracy (in English!).

The EU cannot organise anything other than vanity projects. Blundering around throwing its weight, threatening to jump the queue and withhold medical supplies, and suing companies who are providing vaccines to save lives at cost price. No wonder the silence is deafening.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:07 am
by Long slender neck
I cant believe they dragged out negotiations for 3 months, to try and get an already cheap vaccine, cheaper. The people of Europe dont deserve it, but neither do we. Funny how they love trade rules, then want to rip them up at the first sign of trouble.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:08 am
by BoniO
Just thought it would be nice to see how a real Leader saved tens of thousands of lives during the pandemic. We've been served so, so badly.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/polit ... SryiQ7nwN0

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:15 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
BoniO wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:08 am Just thought it would be nice to see how a real Leader saved tens of thousands of lives during the pandemic. We've been served so, so badly.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/polit ... SryiQ7nwN0
Don't you know, you aren't allowed to mention New Zealand on here any more?

But I agree with the principle of it.

In any walk of life, it's rare, but refreshing when you come across someone who is not only willing to act a good game as well as talk a good game, but who is also willing to put the hard graft in to get there.

There's numerous reasons why this government has failed so dramatically, £ notes being one of them, but I truly believe that laziness is one of them. He simply did not care enough to put the hard work in required to think ahead, to think outside the box, to take on personal responsibility that actually meant something...or you know, turn up to a Cobra meeting or two.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:28 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Mistadobalina wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:51 am The UK now has the highest death rate in Europe and the worst in the developed world. Beyond bleak.
Sure but they've done everything they could. Don't blame our Government. Blame China.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:33 am
by Dunners
It's not an either/or.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:49 pm
by Top of the JES
Percentage of tests proving positive vs total number of tests carried out over the last two weeks falling rapidly now.

Fri 15/1 9.34%
Sat 16/1 8.42%
Sun 17/1 9.25%
Mon 18/1 6.74%
Tues 19/1 5.76%
Weds 20/1 6.07%
Thur 21/1 5.70% Weekly Average 7.18%

Fri 22/1 6.40%
Sat 23/1 6.93%
Sun 24/1 7.28%
Mon 25/1 4.09%
Tues 26/1 3.37%
Weds 27/1 3.28% Weekly Average (6 days) 4.99%

Previous weekly averages were 8.95, 8.06, 12.08, 12.03, 8.89,

Total number of positive tests down 29% in the last week, Number of Covid patients being admitted to hospital has fallen 11% in the Seven days, Still not seeing much reduction on seriously ill patients on ventilators numbers have been up and down this week only reduced by 16 in a week. Will be a while yet before we see any real progress in hospitals.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:30 pm
by Thor
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:49 pm Percentage of tests proving positive vs total number of tests carried out over the last two weeks falling rapidly now.

Fri 15/1 9.34%
Sat 16/1 8.42%
Sun 17/1 9.25%
Mon 18/1 6.74%
Tues 19/1 5.76%
Weds 20/1 6.07%
Thur 21/1 5.70% Weekly Average 7.18%

Fri 22/1 6.40%
Sat 23/1 6.93%
Sun 24/1 7.28%
Mon 25/1 4.09%
Tues 26/1 3.37%
Weds 27/1 3.28% Weekly Average (6 days) 4.99%

Previous weekly averages were 8.95, 8.06, 12.08, 12.03, 8.89,

Total number of positive tests down 29% in the last week, Number of Covid patients being admitted to hospital has fallen 11% in the Seven days, Still not seeing much reduction on seriously ill patients on ventilators numbers have been up and down this week only reduced by 16 in a week. Will be a while yet before we see any real progress in hospitals.
Whilst I agree this is a better way to look at it, are we testing the same amount of people each day? Are the number of tests going up, down or the same?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:31 pm
by Long slender neck
No, hence the percentages being more useful stat.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:46 pm
by Still's Carenae
Several bits of info.

Last years deaths showed a reduction in the number of people dying from the 5 most common deaths. These include cancer, cardiac arrest, dementia etc.

Also the number of emergency breast mammograms dropped by 32%.

The number of people admitted to hospital each day has reduced from 1300 a day to under a 1000 a day as at yesterday. With 1750 being discharged on average daily. 25% of hospital cases are contracted in hospital after 8 days.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:55 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Still's Carenae wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:46 pm Several bits of info.

With 1750 being discharged on average daily
That’s one way of talking about the dead, i guess.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:14 pm
by Still's Carenae
One thing I forgot. A GP has said that 75% of appointments are for mental health issues.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:13 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Still's Carenae wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:14 pm One thing I forgot. A GP has said that 75% of appointments are for mental health issues.
That sound legit.