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Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:15 pm
by Orient till I die M
No one cares didn’t you realise that after your long essay the other day.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:27 pm
by Long slender neck
25 pages says otherwise.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:28 pm
by BoniO
But 24 pages were written by CEB 😏

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:32 pm
by Orient till I die M
Long slender neck wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:27 pm 25 pages says otherwise.
Don’t you run this message board ? Do you love talking about gender neutral kids to or do you prefer football ?

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:33 pm
by Long slender neck
I am capable of talking about multiple subjects.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:37 pm
by CEB
Orient till I die M wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:32 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:27 pm 25 pages says otherwise.
Don’t you run this message board ? Do you love talking about gender neutral kids to or do you prefer football ?

If you don’t like talking about it, don’t click on the thread.

For your information, though, if you bothered to read, my interest in this subject is that as someone who has worked with kids for 22 years, I believe that organisations that want to pump kids full of hormones without knowing the effects, are wrong, and that the fact that it’s happened is scandalous.
I talk about it where I can because actually getting these organisations held to account relies on people knowing what is happening at them.

Feel free to read the first page of this thread, where plenty of people are saying that this clinic should be trusted to know what it’s doing.

Or talk about football. Up to you.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:44 pm
by Orient till I die M
CEB wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:37 pm
Orient till I die M wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:32 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:27 pm 25 pages says otherwise.
Don’t you run this message board ? Do you love talking about gender neutral kids to or do you prefer football ?

If you don’t like talking about it, don’t click on the thread.

For your information, though, if you bothered to read, my interest in this subject is that as someone who has worked with kids for 22 years, I believe that organisations that want to pump kids full of hormones without knowing the effects, are wrong, and that the fact that it’s happened is scandalous.
I talk about it where I can because actually getting these organisations held to account relies on people knowing what is happening at them.

Feel free to read the first page of this thread, where plenty of people are saying that this clinic should be trusted to know what it’s doing.

Or talk about football. Up to you.
Ok fair enough the whole subject really angers me but your right I should of read or understood your point of view.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:58 pm
by CEB
No worries - I get that as a subject it’s weird; the reason I care is because there’s kids I’ve worked with that these arseholes would have pumped full of puberty blockers, later on hormones, and then mutilated them. It makes me very angry.

And I talk about it lots because before I did, the “progressive” take on this forum was this guy, who posted this in defence of the Tavistock gender identity clinic. I haven’t seen a better “how it started/how it’s going” than this

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:05 pm
by Orient till I die M
CEB wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:58 pm No worries - I get that as a subject it’s weird; the reason I care is because there’s kids I’ve worked with that these arseholes would have pumped full of puberty blockers, later on hormones, and then mutilated them. It makes me very angry.

And I talk about it lots because before I did, the “progressive” take on this forum was this guy, who posted this in defence of the Tavistock gender identity clinic. I haven’t seen a better “how it started/how it’s going” than this
Yes you are 100% right it’s scandalous, sorry for the immature name calling and thanks for talking and fighting for the better of our children. Especially when this message board is Leyton orient which is a family club 👌

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:11 pm
by CEB
I’m no stranger to immature name calling, don’t worry about it :) cheers

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:04 pm
by Long slender neck
Morning class


Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:34 am
by greyhound
Long slender neck wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:04 pm Morning class

shows you how stupid some people look.
as for the school letting some idiot teach that
shows how far brain dead people in authority have become.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:38 am
by The Mindsweep
One of those wears a mask outside and takes it off inside type of people.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:01 am
by Dunners
#bekind

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:12 am
by CEB
Trans activism has its knockers, but I agree with Brendan on this - everything about her presents as female.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:21 pm
by Ron Waffle
Surely the mental state of someone presenting themselves like that has to be questioned and therefore their suitability to be in a teaching role ?

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:15 pm
by greyhound
Ron Waffle wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:21 pm Surely the mental state of someone presenting themselves like that has to be questioned and therefore their suitability to be in a teaching role ?

all the school had to do was have a quite word
saying its not quite the dress we agree with can you just
tone it down.
instead of looking like an over inflated blow up doll.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:46 pm
by CEB
greyhound wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:15 pm
Ron Waffle wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:21 pm Surely the mental state of someone presenting themselves like that has to be questioned and therefore their suitability to be in a teaching role ?

all the school had to do was have a quite word
saying its not quite the dress we agree with can you just
tone it down.
instead of looking like an over inflated blow up doll.

I don’t think you understand quite how litigious trans activism is, nor how completely they have, where self ID is enshrined in law, made it impossible to address blatant issues like this.
Try it - on what grounds would you suggest this guy “tones it down”? I’ll tell you how the person who says it ends up losing their job

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:50 pm
by Dunners
Companies and establishments are too nervous to challenge such obvious wrongness in case the fall foul of the morality police. And they'll have had their induction training and policies recently rubber-stamped by some self-appointed custodians of progressive virtue and will not want to be stripped of their medals.

Corporate wokeism is so much more convenient for them that basic principles, such as fair pay and conditions.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:18 pm
by CEB
The key thing is - a “cis” woman with large pendulous breasts would not face sanctions for having very large breasts and wearing a cardigan over the top of it.
So any sanctions against this guy would amount to discriminating against a woman who happens to be trans. Because by what standard do we police how large a woman’s breasts are allowed to be? And trans women are more vulnerable to being policed like this because she is trying to alleviate distress of being in the wrong body - the body that feels right for her has massive tits.

This is what happens when you say “trans women are women” without thinking through the implications of it.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:38 pm
by Long slender neck
At least wear a bra though.

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:08 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Long slender neck wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:38 pm At least wear a bra though.
Sexist

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:59 pm
by Max Fowler
Dunners wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:50 pm Companies and establishments are too nervous to challenge such obvious wrongness
How is having massive tits 'obvious wrongness', fake or real?

It's very silly, sure but wrong?

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:07 pm
by Long slender neck
Isnt it sexist for a man to dress like that?

Re: The trans debate

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:04 pm
by Dunners
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:59 pm
Dunners wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:50 pm Companies and establishments are too nervous to challenge such obvious wrongness
How is having massive tits 'obvious wrongness', fake or real?

It's very silly, sure but wrong?
Quite right. Absolutely nothing wrong with that at all. Just a bit silly.