CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:45 pm
It actually blows my mind that people will actually say out loud that they believe that far right rioting in August is the fault of the Labour Party who have been in power for a month.
It seems that part of the argument actually comprises “they shouldn’t have got in power then the far righties wouldn’t have been provoked!”
Just so I know the rules for the future….
How long do they have to be in power for until we can stop auto-blaming the Tories and start blaming the people running the country?
Well the Tories were still blaming Labour for "there's no money left" and the state of the Economy up to last year at least, so shall we say 13 years ?
That’s my point though, that was obviously a sly/clever ploy during the last regime, employed liberally in the first parliament.
At some point they’re going to be accountable for their actions. For example, if they’re still burning hotels in September it’s a legitimate question to ask why they haven’t gripped the situation
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:45 pm
It actually blows my mind that people will actually say out loud that they believe that far right rioting in August is the fault of the Labour Party who have been in power for a month.
It seems that part of the argument actually comprises “they shouldn’t have got in power then the far righties wouldn’t have been provoked!”
Just so I know the rules for the future….
How long do they have to be in power for until we can stop auto-blaming the Tories and start blaming the people running the country?
The answer is “it depends”, with the specifics being, obviously, about how reasonable it is to have ecpevted the incumbents to have addressed the issue being discussed
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:45 pm
It actually blows my mind that people will actually say out loud that they believe that far right rioting in August is the fault of the Labour Party who have been in power for a month.
It seems that part of the argument actually comprises “they shouldn’t have got in power then the far righties wouldn’t have been provoked!”
Just so I know the rules for the future….
How long do they have to be in power for until we can stop auto-blaming the Tories and start blaming the people running the country?
The answer is “it depends”, with the specifics being, obviously, about how reasonable it is to have ecpevted the incumbents to have addressed the issue being discussed
If it’s a contentious one though where they’re blaming each other we need a mechanism to judge blame. Maybe a Boarding Court for the arbitration of blame? Politically neutral with a right and left winger and a neutral?
Beradogs, Sharky and Dunners to start with the judiciary rotating
Personally this is how I think reported posts should be judged as well
How long do they have to be in power for until we can stop auto-blaming the Tories and start blaming the people running the country?
The answer is “it depends”, with the specifics being, obviously, about how reasonable it is to have ecpevted the incumbents to have addressed the issue being discussed
If it’s a contentious one though where they’re blaming each other we need a mechanism to judge blame. Maybe a Boarding Court for the arbitration of blame? Politically neutral with a right and left winger and a neutral?
Beradogs, Sharky and Dunners to start with the judiciary rotating
Personally this is how I think reported posts should be judged as well
Is Beradogs the sensible centrist on the tribunal?
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:45 pm
It actually blows my mind that people will actually say out loud that they believe that far right rioting in August is the fault of the Labour Party who have been in power for a month.
It seems that part of the argument actually comprises “they shouldn’t have got in power then the far righties wouldn’t have been provoked!”
But the people rioting are doing so because we have a Labour government.
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:45 pm
It actually blows my mind that people will actually say out loud that they believe that far right rioting in August is the fault of the Labour Party who have been in power for a month.
It seems that part of the argument actually comprises “they shouldn’t have got in power then the far righties wouldn’t have been provoked!”
But the people rioting are doing so because we have a Labour government.
Would these riots not have happened under the Tories?
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:45 pm
It actually blows my mind that people will actually say out loud that they believe that far right rioting in August is the fault of the Labour Party who have been in power for a month.
It seems that part of the argument actually comprises “they shouldn’t have got in power then the far righties wouldn’t have been provoked!”
But the people rioting are doing so because we have a Labour government.
Would these riots not have happened under the Tories?
No. Starmer's lack of commitment to tackling the climate genocide was the straw that broke the camel's back.
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:45 pm
It actually blows my mind that people will actually say out loud that they believe that far right rioting in August is the fault of the Labour Party who have been in power for a month.
It seems that part of the argument actually comprises “they shouldn’t have got in power then the far righties wouldn’t have been provoked!”
But the people rioting are doing so because we have a Labour government.
Would these riots not have happened under the Tories?
No, I don't believe so.
A lot of people are very, very angry that we have a Labour government.
If Starmer thought that his biggest obstacle to governing the UK was to get rid of the lefties in Labour any which way he can - he is fast discovering that maybe governing isn't quite as simple as he thought.
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:39 amTerrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.
Seems reasonable to me. One man’s freedom fighter is another man’s grifty c*nt.
Do you use Wikipedia for all your legal definitions?