Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:31 pm
Exactly , wealthy don't need it.The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:30 pmIf they are not on Pension Credit then they should have enough money
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Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:47 pm
Anyone seriously interested in reducing pensioner poverty understands that means testing of the Winter Fuel Payments will need to happen in conjunction with a reset in tax policies. And this can only happen through the autumn budget. That'll be the time to celebrate or protest, depending on what it contains.
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Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:00 pm
I was due to get the fuel payment for the first time this winter.
Been saying for years that it should be means tested and to be honest I didn't need it.
Me and the missus spend that much and more on a day out to London by train.
Now make the really wealthy cough up with extra CGT and reduced pension tax relief
Been saying for years that it should be means tested and to be honest I didn't need it.
Me and the missus spend that much and more on a day out to London by train.
Now make the really wealthy cough up with extra CGT and reduced pension tax relief
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:04 pm
Nu New Labour or the Red Tories as some prefer to call them as well as starving kids they are freezing pensioners. What next ?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:20 pm
one o in huntingdon :- I totally agree with you & should also clamp down on tax avoiding taxi drivers.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:33 pm
Not being on Pension Credit merely means that your income is more than £218 a week. Hardly makes you wealthy or able to keep the heating on all winter due to the current extortionate prices for gas and electricityThe Mindsweep wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:30 pmIf they are not on Pension Credit then they should have enough money
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:07 pm
I wonder why Rachel Reeves didn't mention she was going to stop many pensioners winter fuel payment, before the election 3½ weeks ago?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:31 pm
It's good to see that Labour are looking after ordinary people by scrapping the Wintet fuel allowance
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:38 pm
Any self employed tax dodger, not just taxi driversFriend or faux wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:20 pm one o in huntingdon :- I totally agree with you & should also clamp down on tax avoiding taxi drivers.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:55 am
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:59 am
I see many pensioners are complaining about the public sector pay rises.
Doctors are getting 22%, its actually over two years and others are only getting back what the Tories underpaid them by.
Pensioners on the other hand have had inflation busting rises, some really greedy individuals amongst the old.
Yes there are some genuinely struggling, but a huge amount are doing very nicely thank you.
Doctors are getting 22%, its actually over two years and others are only getting back what the Tories underpaid them by.
Pensioners on the other hand have had inflation busting rises, some really greedy individuals amongst the old.
Yes there are some genuinely struggling, but a huge amount are doing very nicely thank you.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:16 am
Seems to me that RR's "Fully costed" claims didn't include the possibility of a 'black hole' and no contingency made. No incoming gov't is that ignorant of finances and it's more likely that there simply wasn't the money for all the promises Labour made before the election. Could be blame the Tories when the inevitable u turns come along.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:22 am
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:21 am
He's a Red Tory so he knows what he's blethering about.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:17 am
Contempt prior to investigation springs to mindone o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:59 am I see many pensioners are complaining about the public sector pay rises.
Doctors are getting 22%, its actually over two years and others are only getting back what the Tories underpaid them by.
Pensioners on the other hand have had inflation busting rises, some really greedy individuals amongst the old.
Yes there are some genuinely struggling, but a huge amount are doing very nicely thank you.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:29 pm
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:49 pm
The person on the left isn’t on benefits and can afford to pay. The person on the right is working for the country.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:10 pm
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:17 pm
Lost your fuel allowance hand out Max?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:08 pm
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:17 pm
Too young, too wealthy to ever qualify but it doesn't stop me believing in social justice.
Not sure it will be lost in Scotland as its one of the policy areas that will be devolved to the Scotch parliament in the autumn. The SNP government has a decision to make but will have to find the money from somewhere.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:55 pm
Free money for rich boomers being framed as social justice is great
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:18 pm
Turn it up.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:55 pm Free money for rich boomers being framed as social justice is great
Its not free money. Rich boomers pay tax and are entitled to benefit the same as everyone else.
The principle of universalism abolishes demeaning means tests and ensures the poor benefit as well as the so called "rich". It has the added positive benefit of tying society together, a sort of social glue.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:27 pm
Spoken like a true blue blooded boomer ToryMax B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:18 pmIts not free money. Rich boomers pay tax and are entitled to benefit the same as everyone else.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:55 pm Free money for rich boomers being framed as social justice is great
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:39 pm
So much fuss over a few quid when the scrapping of a cap on social care costs is far more angst worthy.
One of the biggest losers will be charities who received a donation of the fuel payments that many did not deem necessary.
One of the biggest losers will be charities who received a donation of the fuel payments that many did not deem necessary.