Labour Watch

[Rubex Kube]

Winter Fuel Payments to be scrapped for those not in receipt of Pension Credit. Up here in chilly Jocko Land, expect many deaths among the elderly due to hypothermia this winter.

If they are not on Pension Credit then they should have enough money

Exactly , wealthy don't need it.

[Hoover Attack]

Winter Fuel Payments to be scrapped for those not in receipt of Pension Credit. Up here in chilly Jocko Land, expect many deaths among the elderly due to hypothermia this winter.

Anyone seriously interested in reducing pensioner poverty understands that means testing of the Winter Fuel Payments will need to happen in conjunction with a reset in tax policies. And this can only happen through the autumn budget. That'll be the time to celebrate or protest, depending on what it contains.

Oh....

[one o in huntingdon]

I was due to get the fuel payment for the first time this winter.
Been saying for years that it should be means tested and to be honest I didn't need it.
Me and the missus spend that much and more on a day out to London by train.
Now make the really wealthy cough up with extra CGT and reduced pension tax relief

[Max B Gold]

Nu New Labour or the Red Tories as some prefer to call them as well as starving kids they are freezing pensioners. What next ?

[Friend or fart]

one o in huntingdon :- I totally agree with you & should also clamp down on tax avoiding taxi drivers.

[Celtient]

Winter Fuel Payments to be scrapped for those not in receipt of Pension Credit. Up here in chilly Jocko Land, expect many deaths among the elderly due to hypothermia this winter.

If they are not on Pension Credit then they should have enough money

Not being on Pension Credit merely means that your income is more than £218 a week. Hardly makes you wealthy or able to keep the heating on all winter due to the current extortionate prices for gas and electricity

[Qin]

I wonder why Rachel Reeves didn't mention she was going to stop many pensioners winter fuel payment, before the election 3½ weeks ago?

[Ski Sunday]

It's good to see that Labour are looking after ordinary people by scrapping the Wintet fuel allowance

[Rubex Kube]

one o in huntingdon :- I totally agree with you & should also clamp down on tax avoiding taxi drivers.

Any self employed tax dodger, not just taxi drivers

[Stowaway]

I wonder why Rachel Reeves didn't mention she was going to stop many pensioners winter fuel payment, before the election 3½ weeks ago?

Probably because they hadn’t accounted for the £20bn black hole the tories didn’t tell anyone about.

[one o in huntingdon]

I see many pensioners are complaining about the public sector pay rises.
Doctors are getting 22%, its actually over two years and others are only getting back what the Tories underpaid them by.
Pensioners on the other hand have had inflation busting rises, some really greedy individuals amongst the old.
Yes there are some genuinely struggling, but a huge amount are doing very nicely thank you.

[cymruO]

Seems to me that RR's "Fully costed" claims didn't include the possibility of a 'black hole' and no contingency made. No incoming gov't is that ignorant of finances and it's more likely that there simply wasn't the money for all the promises Labour made before the election. Could be blame the Tories when the inevitable u turns come along.

[faldO]

[Max B Gold]

He's a Red Tory so he knows what he's blethering about.

[B.whitehouse+10more]

I see many pensioners are complaining about the public sector pay rises.
Doctors are getting 22%, its actually over two years and others are only getting back what the Tories underpaid them by.
Pensioners on the other hand have had inflation busting rises, some really greedy individuals amongst the old.
Yes there are some genuinely struggling, but a huge amount are doing very nicely thank you.

Contempt prior to investigation springs to mind

[Max B Gold]

[BiggsyMalone]

The person on the left isn’t on benefits and can afford to pay. The person on the right is working for the country.

[Max B Gold]

[Currywurst and Chips]

Lost your fuel allowance hand out Max?

[J1MB0B]

I wonder why Rachel Reeves didn't mention she was going to stop many pensioners winter fuel payment, before the election 3½ weeks ago?

Probably because they hadn’t accounted for the £20bn black hole the tories didn’t tell anyone about.

Didn’t the SNP tell them about it though? Strange they knew about it

[Max B Gold]

Lost your fuel allowance hand out Max?

Too young, too wealthy to ever qualify but it doesn't stop me believing in social justice.

Not sure it will be lost in Scotland as its one of the policy areas that will be devolved to the Scotch parliament in the autumn. The SNP government has a decision to make but will have to find the money from somewhere.

[Currywurst and Chips]

Free money for rich boomers being framed as social justice is great

[Max B Gold]

Free money for rich boomers being framed as social justice is great

Turn it up.

Its not free money. Rich boomers pay tax and are entitled to benefit the same as everyone else.

The principle of universalism abolishes demeaning means tests and ensures the poor benefit as well as the so called "rich". It has the added positive benefit of tying society together, a sort of social glue.

[Currywurst and Chips]

Free money for rich boomers being framed as social justice is great

Its not free money. Rich boomers pay tax and are entitled to benefit the same as everyone else.

Spoken like a true blue blooded boomer Tory

[one o in huntingdon]

So much fuss over a few quid when the scrapping of a cap on social care costs is far more angst worthy.
One of the biggest losers will be charities who received a donation of the fuel payments that many did not deem necessary.