CEB wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:10 am
Breaking news: party that is very good at staying in power takes action two years ahead of a general election to get rid of their biggest liability and to draw a line under two years of crises and scandal. The left celebrates, for some reason.
Reason is pretty obvious, we're watching a man who's never had to pay for any of his awfulness finally getting what is due to him. Can stress about whatever b*stard replaces him later, gonna enjoy the moment 100%. It's great.
“Can stress about what happens next later”
And that’s why Labour are playing catch up. Focuses on the small victories, loses sight of the bigger picture. Johnson is a c***. But the real problem has always been the party who put him in power. They’ve removed him because it now suits them to do so. What’s to cheer?
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:38 pm
by oxo
CEB wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:10 am
Breaking news: party that is very good at staying in power takes action two years ahead of a general election to get rid of their biggest liability and to draw a line under two years of crises and scandal. The left celebrates, for some reason.
Another one of those 'sh*tting your pants and changing your shirt' moments.
CEB wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:10 am
Breaking news: party that is very good at staying in power takes action two years ahead of a general election to get rid of their biggest liability and to draw a line under two years of crises and scandal. The left celebrates, for some reason.
Reason is pretty obvious, we're watching a man who's never had to pay for any of his awfulness finally getting what is due to him. Can stress about whatever b*stard replaces him later, gonna enjoy the moment 100%. It's great.
“Can stress about what happens next later”
And that’s why Labour are playing catch up. Focuses on the small victories, loses sight of the bigger picture. Johnson is a c***. But the real problem has always been the party who put him in power. They’ve removed him because it now suits them to do so. What’s to cheer?
Indeed so, BUT would you prefer Boris to not have resigned? I would not. Certain of that.
Reason is pretty obvious, we're watching a man who's never had to pay for any of his awfulness finally getting what is due to him. Can stress about whatever b*stard replaces him later, gonna enjoy the moment 100%. It's great.
“Can stress about what happens next later”
And that’s why Labour are playing catch up. Focuses on the small victories, loses sight of the bigger picture. Johnson is a c***. But the real problem has always been the party who put him in power. They’ve removed him because it now suits them to do so. What’s to cheer?
Indeed so, BUT would you prefer Boris to not have resigned? I would not. Certain of that.
What an odd question; I absolutely, 100% would have *loved* Johnson to stagger on as long as possible, ideally to the point where he was “leading” the Tories into the next election, but if not, then with as little time as possible for the party to regroup. Absolutely. It’s pretty nuts that so many of you aren’t realising that the reason he’s going is simply “because enough people with sway in the party recognise that he needs to go if they’re to have any chance of success”. You’re celebrating the laying of foundations for the Tory party’s next GE win. Knock yourself out if that’s something you want to celebrate, I guess.
CEB wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:10 am
Breaking news: party that is very good at staying in power takes action two years ahead of a general election to get rid of their biggest liability and to draw a line under two years of crises and scandal. The left celebrates, for some reason.
Reason is pretty obvious, we're watching a man who's never had to pay for any of his awfulness finally getting what is due to him. Can stress about whatever b*stard replaces him later, gonna enjoy the moment 100%. It's great.
“Can stress about what happens next later”
And that’s why Labour are playing catch up. Focuses on the small victories, loses sight of the bigger picture. Johnson is a c***. But the real problem has always been the party who put him in power. They’ve removed him because it now suits them to do so. What’s to cheer?
If you look at it with a civilian hat on and not a Labour hat (with obligatory Palestine badge) then it's good news
Reason is pretty obvious, we're watching a man who's never had to pay for any of his awfulness finally getting what is due to him. Can stress about whatever b*stard replaces him later, gonna enjoy the moment 100%. It's great.
“Can stress about what happens next later”
And that’s why Labour are playing catch up. Focuses on the small victories, loses sight of the bigger picture. Johnson is a c***. But the real problem has always been the party who put him in power. They’ve removed him because it now suits them to do so. What’s to cheer?
If you look at it with a civilian hat on and not a Labour hat (with obligatory Palestine badge) then it's good news
It's good in the short term in as much as Johnson is a very dangerous individual, but long term it increases the chances of a decent portion shower of this shower of sh*t government remaining in office for a long time, which I don't think is good news for the majority of the people in this country, whether they vote for them or not.
Reason is pretty obvious, we're watching a man who's never had to pay for any of his awfulness finally getting what is due to him. Can stress about whatever b*stard replaces him later, gonna enjoy the moment 100%. It's great.
“Can stress about what happens next later”
And that’s why Labour are playing catch up. Focuses on the small victories, loses sight of the bigger picture. Johnson is a c***. But the real problem has always been the party who put him in power. They’ve removed him because it now suits them to do so. What’s to cheer?
If you look at it with a civilian hat on and not a Labour hat (with obligatory Palestine badge) then it's good news
This is true. No issue with anyone who is relieved that he’s gone because it means we might get a slightly more stable/less useless government for a while. It’s the celebrations from left wing people who are happy about this that I don’t understand
And that’s why Labour are playing catch up. Focuses on the small victories, loses sight of the bigger picture. Johnson is a c***. But the real problem has always been the party who put him in power. They’ve removed him because it now suits them to do so. What’s to cheer?
Indeed so, BUT would you prefer Boris to not have resigned? I would not. Certain of that.
What an odd question; I absolutely, 100% would have *loved* Johnson to stagger on as long as possible, ideally to the point where he was “leading” the Tories into the next election, but if not, then with as little time as possible for the party to regroup. Absolutely. It’s pretty nuts that so many of you aren’t realising that the reason he’s going is simply “because enough people with sway in the party recognise that he needs to go if they’re to have any chance of success”. You’re celebrating the laying of foundations for the Tory party’s next GE win. Knock yourself out if that’s something you want to celebrate, I guess.
I guess people want the country run by someone who isnt a buffoon for the next two years.
And that’s why Labour are playing catch up. Focuses on the small victories, loses sight of the bigger picture. Johnson is a c***. But the real problem has always been the party who put him in power. They’ve removed him because it now suits them to do so. What’s to cheer?
If you look at it with a civilian hat on and not a Labour hat (with obligatory Palestine badge) then it's good news
This is true. No issue with anyone who is relieved that he’s gone because it means we might get a slightly more stable/less useless government for a while. It’s the celebrations from left wing people who are happy about this that I don’t understand
1. He's a Tory
2. He's probably the most responsible for Brexit
3. He ruined and subsequently semi-retired their hero
And that’s why Labour are playing catch up. Focuses on the small victories, loses sight of the bigger picture. Johnson is a c***. But the real problem has always been the party who put him in power. They’ve removed him because it now suits them to do so. What’s to cheer?
Indeed so, BUT would you prefer Boris to not have resigned? I would not. Certain of that.
What an odd question; I absolutely, 100% would have *loved* Johnson to stagger on as long as possible, ideally to the point where he was “leading” the Tories into the next election, but if not, then with as little time as possible for the party to regroup. Absolutely. It’s pretty nuts that so many of you aren’t realising that the reason he’s going is simply “because enough people with sway in the party recognise that he needs to go if they’re to have any chance of success”. You’re celebrating the laying of foundations for the Tory party’s next GE win. Knock yourself out if that’s something you want to celebrate, I guess.
Why be SO SO defeatist? I do not think the electorate will forget Johnson's legacy in a hurry. Why do you assume Labour are so doomed to lose the next election that their only chance of winning is Boris staying in power?? If so, there is not hope of an alternative vision. At all.
Indeed so, BUT would you prefer Boris to not have resigned? I would not. Certain of that.
What an odd question; I absolutely, 100% would have *loved* Johnson to stagger on as long as possible, ideally to the point where he was “leading” the Tories into the next election, but if not, then with as little time as possible for the party to regroup. Absolutely. It’s pretty nuts that so many of you aren’t realising that the reason he’s going is simply “because enough people with sway in the party recognise that he needs to go if they’re to have any chance of success”. You’re celebrating the laying of foundations for the Tory party’s next GE win. Knock yourself out if that’s something you want to celebrate, I guess.
Why be SO SO defeatist? I do not think the electorate will forget Johnson's legacy in a hurry. Why do you assume Labour are so doomed to lose the next election that their only chance of winning is Boris staying in power?? If so, there is not hope of an alternative vision. At all.
I think part of the problem is that so far, Labour and in particular SKS have provided little in the way of any alternative vision.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:30 pm
by tuffers#1
QT shold be good tonight
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:51 pm
by Admin
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:30 pm
QT shold be good tonight
You’ll be disappointed then. It’s the same old mixture of slogans, gammons and human smugfest Fiona Bruce.
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:30 pm
QT shold be good tonight
You’ll be disappointed then. It’s the same old mixture of slogans, gammons and human smugfest Fiona Bruce.
Like PMQs, it’s just grandstanding bullshit.
Wasnt to bad , At*ry getting hammered in good oldLABOUR Barnsley
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:19 am
by Dunners
Keef is right. The Tories will use this as an opportunity to regroup and prepare afresh for the next GE.
But I'm not too fussed. The real battle for the real left will remain on the picket lines, and not in Westminster. I think a change of administration would be good for the country, however my preference for the next GE is that no party wins it with a large majority.
As for Labour, if they are to win a future GE, then they need to be able to do so on their own merit, and not rely on an incumbent who has become a liability. Labour's problem is illustrated in results such as this:
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:43 am
by Give it to Jabo
Has Starmer made a massive blunder in stating that he will not campaign to "undo" Brexit? Would it not be better if leaders campaigned for what they believe in, instead of campaigning for what they think the voting public want? This is what constitutes leadership.
Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:19 am
Keef is right. The Tories will use this as an opportunity to regroup and prepare afresh for the next GE.
But I'm not too fussed. The real battle for the real left will remain on the picket lines, and not in Westminster. I think a change of administration would be good for the country, however my preference for the next GE is that no party wins it with a large majority.
As for Labour, if they are to win a future GE, then they need to be able to do so on their own merit, and not rely on an incumbent who has become a liability. Labour's problem is illustrated in results such as this:
That's a really interesting graph. It's almost as if people think there's no real difference between Labour under Starmer and the current government.
What an odd question; I absolutely, 100% would have *loved* Johnson to stagger on as long as possible, ideally to the point where he was “leading” the Tories into the next election, but if not, then with as little time as possible for the party to regroup. Absolutely. It’s pretty nuts that so many of you aren’t realising that the reason he’s going is simply “because enough people with sway in the party recognise that he needs to go if they’re to have any chance of success”. You’re celebrating the laying of foundations for the Tory party’s next GE win. Knock yourself out if that’s something you want to celebrate, I guess.
Why be SO SO defeatist? I do not think the electorate will forget Johnson's legacy in a hurry. Why do you assume Labour are so doomed to lose the next election that their only chance of winning is Boris staying in power?? If so, there is not hope of an alternative vision. At all.
I think part of the problem is that so far, Labour and in particular SKS have provided little in the way of any alternative vision.
Surely, any future Tory Prime MInister can not be AS odious as Boris!
