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spen666 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 10:18 am

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 9:10 am

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 7:02 am

If you want the stats, do the research. I'm not making any comparison between Labour and any other government.


Whether the Daily Mail quote the soundbite or not doesn't change the facts about Labour governments & unemployment namely that :

every Labour government, apart from the short McDonald government of approx 9 months, has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.

Ok, in which case I'll add:

Every Tory government has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.

This is easy.

Except that is not true



The labour one however is true

every Labour government, apart from the short McDonald government of approx 9 months, has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.




Besides, my post was not a comparison between parties, it was a responses to Anthem of Hope saying Labour aimed to help the working man. I was pointing out the difference between intentions and the product.


Sadly you seem to want yo turn it I to a false comparison between parties by making up lies

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 11:12 am

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 10:18 am

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 9:10 am

Ok, in which case I'll add:

Every Tory government has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.

This is easy.

Except that is not true



The labour one however is true

every Labour government, apart from the short McDonald government of approx 9 months, has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.




Besides, my post was not a comparison between parties, it was a responses to Anthem of Hope saying Labour aimed to help the working man. I was pointing out the difference between intentions and the product.


Sadly you seem to want yo turn it I to a false comparison between parties by making up lies

No comparison, just adding some balance. I can do big and bold too


Every Tory government has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.

Wally Banter wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 12:40 pm I think there another one where his line of argument was gradually whittled down to “50 is less than 200”, or something to that effect.

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 12:52 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 11:58 am Oh no, someone has triggered Spen into some kind of loop where he just repeats himself over and over. What was his last one? "Jeffrey Epstein has as many convictions for rape as you and I?"

I made my position and the reasons a few entries up this thread

What I fail to understand with Spen who is apparently
- a practising lawyer ( solicitor)
- a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Accountants

His propensity to generate this type of conflict with other boarders who have not got I assume similar professional attributes- but are intelligent.

Then we get days of correction of facts or statements of thought conveyed as if it is a court of law.

This is a football forum board of views,that all, and it really does not matter if anyone and I mean all of us cannot find the data / give wrong data in good faith / or just have different views that are not substantial in their conclusion.

If Spen qualifications and career are true I respect that fact, but his jaundiced approach on here to others including historically being damning about me as I written above gives me the impression his character is flawed.

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 12:52 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 11:58 am

What I fail to understand with Spen who is apparently
- a practising lawyer ( solicitor)
- a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Accountants

His propensity to generate this type of conflict with other boarders who have not got I assume similar professional attributes- but are intelligent.

Then we get days of correction of facts or statements of thought conveyed as if it is a court of law.

This is a football forum board of views,that all, and it really does not matter if anyone and I mean all of us cannot find the data / give wrong data in good faith / or just have different views that are not substantial in their conclusion.

If Spen qualifications and career are true I respect that fact, but his jaundiced approach on here to others including historically being damning about me as I written above gives me the impression his character is flawed.

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 1:55 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 1:36 pm

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 12:52 pm

I made my position and the reasons a few entries up this thread

What I fail to understand with Spen who is apparently
- a practising lawyer ( solicitor)
- a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Accountants

His propensity to generate this type of conflict with other boarders who have not got I assume similar professional attributes- but are intelligent.

Then we get days of correction of facts or statements of thought conveyed as if it is a court of law.

This is a football forum board of views,that all, and it really does not matter if anyone and I mean all of us cannot find the data / give wrong data in good faith / or just have different views that are not substantial in their conclusion.

If Spen qualifications and career are true I respect that fact, but his jaundiced approach on here to others including historically being damning about me as I written above gives me the impression his character is flawed.

Flawed he may be, but at least he can drive from Newcastle to Leyton in 3 hours!

I believe he implied or admitted that he was speeding

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 12:52 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 11:58 am Oh no, someone has triggered Spen into some kind of loop where he just repeats himself over and over. What was his last one? "Jeffrey Epstein has as many convictions for rape as you and I?"

I made my position and the reasons a few entries up this thread

What I fail to understand with Spen who is apparently
- a practising lawyer ( solicitor)
- a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Accountants

His propensity to generate this type of conflict with other boarders who have not got I assume similar professional attributes- but are intelligent.

Then we get days of correction of facts or statements of thought conveyed as if it is a court of law.

This is a football forum board of views,that all, and it really does not matter if anyone and I mean all of us cannot find the data / give wrong data in good faith / or just have different views that are not substantial in their conclusion.

If Spen qualifications and career are true I respect that fact, but his jaundiced approach on here to others including historically being damning about me as I written above gives me the impression his character is flawed.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 7:08 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 6:42 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 6:41 pm



Thats the 2nd mention on here .
Reuters have been alerted &
Are Investigating .

No smoke without fire.

Exactly what I said to my contact at Reuters !

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 11:49 am I let Gary and Spen play table tennis with their dual of unemployment numbers

Game set and match at 21 whoever gets there first

east saxon gas wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:22 am

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 11:49 am I let Gary and Spen play table tennis with their dual of unemployment numbers

Game set and match at 21 whoever gets there first

I take it you're no spring chicken AoH - they changed the rules to make it up to 11 years ago

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:33 am Would be rather entertaining for the 54 threshold to be reached at the same time as Durham Constabulary fining Sir Beer Korma

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 5:24 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 4:22 am The worst Prime Minister this.Country has ever had .

Time to go .

I think there have been some shockers both blue / red and liberal ( Thorpe )
But tuff I agree he should GO