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Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 9:23 pm Starmer left reeling after voters desert Labour in droves over Diane Abbott debacle

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Telling the old black woman she can’t stand as an MP proving popular with the Reformers.


Maxy was right.

Exactly,

He was spot on when he was predicting binning her off was a master stroke by Starmer, would be more popular than not amongst all age groups and wouldn’t impact him electorally.

Looks like there are even more racists out there than even I estimated.

Dumping black and brown women and a gay out of the Red Tory Party appears to be popular.

Good luck Shama

I too shall be cheering on this brave woman of colour as she stands up to the facist patriarchy of IDS.

Wonder if there are any more to cull or is that it now?

Have any others basically outlined a league table of racism?

They showed Diane on the news the other day and she looked unwell, shaking a lot.

She was probably was recalling that time she bravely called everyone and everything racist while smashing back tins of cocktails on the tube, sending her son to private school and then visiting him in prison, and that time in the 90s when she co-founded the pro-Serb front group 'The Committee for Peace in the Balkans' alongside Sir Alfred Sherman; a former advisor to convicted war criminals Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic.

We all get those memory cringe shudders from time to time.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:00 am Have any others basically outlined a league table of racism?

Excluding Islamophobia, obvs.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:09 am She was probably was recalling that time she bravely called everyone and everything racist while smashing back tins of cocktails on the tube, sending her son to private school and then visiting him in prison, and that time in the 90s when she co-founded the pro-Serb front group 'The Committee for Peace in the Balkans' alongside Sir Alfred Sherman; a former advisor to convicted war criminals Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic.

We all get those memory cringe shudders from time to time.

Don’t forget the time she did a police numberwang.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:41 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:09 am She was probably was recalling that time she bravely called everyone and everything racist while smashing back tins of cocktails on the tube, sending her son to private school and then visiting him in prison, and that time in the 90s when she co-founded the pro-Serb front group 'The Committee for Peace in the Balkans' alongside Sir Alfred Sherman; a former advisor to convicted war criminals Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic.

We all get those memory cringe shudders from time to time.

Don’t forget the time she did a police numberwang.

Or the time she smashed Corbyn's back doors in.

Still, on the plus side, she never did a "mute point".

This is clearly the narrative the crank left is going to fall back on. They just cannot resist their comfort zone of divisive identity politics.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:53 am This is clearly the narrative the crank left is going to fall back on. They just cannot resist their comfort zone of divisive identity politics.

There's only one side creating division ?

Whilst Sarkar notes the racial bias she also highlights the class issue of letting Tories in and punting socialists out.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:53 am This is clearly the narrative the crank left is going to fall back on. They just cannot resist their comfort zone of divisive identity politics.

Instead of playing the (wo)man rather than the ball, what's wrong with what she says here?

Because when it comes to the MPs that were allowed to join for a photo op or those that have been barred from standing, race wasn’t a factor

Labour have also barred white men (Corbyn) from standing. Although Russell-Moyle is technically a minority insofar as he’s ginger I suppose

Hehe

"Women of colour"

It's going to be full-on identitarian bingo, isn't it?

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Also, why is the British left so easily led by the US left? This phrase "people of colour" being a recent-ish example.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:24 am "Women of colour"

It's going to be full-on identitarian bingo, isn't it?

Excuse my ignorance - what is the issue with OJ using the phrase 'women of colour'?

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:16 am Hehe

Oh Michael, you wag!

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:27 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:24 am "Women of colour"

It's going to be full-on identitarian bingo, isn't it?

Excuse my ignorance - what is the issue with OJ using the phrase 'women of colour'?

The issue is that it’s a perfect example of how the active process of engineering language is circular and entirely geared around identifying those who share the enthusiasm for demonstrating credentials rather than actually using language neutrally.

Think of it this way - can you think of a good, substantial reason that grandad saying “coloured people” is objectionable language, while “people of colour” is *the* term that’s right and good and should always be used?

And in the context, it’s the fact that Jones et al are clearly going to be using identity group membership as if that’s the reason for expulsion. Which is poor analysis; regardless of where one stands on the actions taken, it’s about politics, not sexuality or skin colour

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:27 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:24 am "Women of colour"

It's going to be full-on identitarian bingo, isn't it?

Excuse my ignorance - what is the issue with OJ using the phrase 'women of colour'?

The identity politics angle is misleading, needlessly divisive, and likely to distract from the real issue. Take replacing Faiza Shaheen with Sharma Tatler as an example - both "women of colour". Or their treatment of Corbyn, when being a white male didn't exactly help him.

Also, the phrase "person of colour" is just another cringe Americanism that has infiltrated British English through the liberal left.