Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 11:28 am

CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 10:49 am Damn, the pollsters forgot to include the increase for the Tories

Another piece of art screwed up. Never mind there's always next time.

CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 1:00 pm My guess, the timeline is something like this

Investigation concludes, the findings aren’t really great for either party - she’s not totally exonerated, neither are her actions terrible enough to justify the sanctions Labour would like to impose.

After the investigation concluded, perhaps Abbott was informally briefed/given a discreet heads up about the findings, with a suggestion that it might be best all round if she steps down. She, understandably, sees that as that she’s finished under a Starmer leadership, as she would not have stood down/retired if not for the investigation. She sees this as a ban.

The long gap between the conclusion and the investigation - perhaps demonstrates that neither side wanted to blink first during a time where there was no obvious imminent prospect of an election, and where perhaps the exact dynamic of of the dignified exit is in dispute

The election catches everyone off guard, someone leaks the current state of affairs to the press

CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 1:00 pm My guess, the timeline is something like this

Investigation concludes, the findings aren’t really great for either party - she’s not totally exonerated, neither are her actions terrible enough to justify the sanctions Labour would like to impose.

After the investigation concluded, perhaps Abbott was informally briefed/given a discreet heads up about the findings, with a suggestion that it might be best all round if she steps down. She, understandably, sees that as that she’s finished under a Starmer leadership, as she would not have stood down/retired if not for the investigation. She sees this as a ban.

The long gap between the conclusion and the investigation - perhaps demonstrates that neither side wanted to blink first during a time where there was no obvious imminent prospect of an election, and where perhaps the exact dynamic of of the dignified exit is in dispute

The election catches everyone off guard, someone leaks the current state of affairs to the press

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 1:30 pm

CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 1:00 pm My guess, the timeline is something like this

Investigation concludes, the findings aren’t really great for either party - she’s not totally exonerated, neither are her actions terrible enough to justify the sanctions Labour would like to impose.

After the investigation concluded, perhaps Abbott was informally briefed/given a discreet heads up about the findings, with a suggestion that it might be best all round if she steps down. She, understandably, sees that as that she’s finished under a Starmer leadership, as she would not have stood down/retired if not for the investigation. She sees this as a ban.

The long gap between the conclusion and the investigation - perhaps demonstrates that neither side wanted to blink first during a time where there was no obvious imminent prospect of an election, and where perhaps the exact dynamic of of the dignified exit is in dispute

The election catches everyone off guard, someone leaks the current state of affairs to the press

I don't follow Abbott. Has she been silent on this subject the past few months? She must have been if the above is accurate.

CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 1:48 pm Good to see Max putting another nonsensical post up for fact checking

CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 2:20 pm It’s a parody account mate

faldO wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 1:49 pm Dr. Shola calls Sir Kier a "2 faced lying double crossing political prostitute of the highest order" over the Diane Abbot thing.

CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 2:23 pm Looking forward to the day you make a genuine attempt at a point. Though I’m comforted that you’re self aware enough about how bad you are at doing so that you’ve adopted vaguely plausible deniability into every assertion you make on any subject

CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 2:04 pm I’d posit the notion that it’s probably unlikely that a white Jewish woman would accidentally say that Jews don’t experience racism in a letter she accidentally wrote to a Sunday broadsheet

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 2:34 pm

CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 2:04 pm I’d posit the notion that it’s probably unlikely that a white Jewish woman would accidentally say that Jews don’t experience racism in a letter she accidentally wrote to a Sunday broadsheet

It's worth pointing out that she didn't actually say Jews don't experience racism.

(I know, it was unbelievably over a year ago that the letter was written, so understandable that her actual comments have been forgotten).

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 2:39 pm This has now been the main headline on bbc news all day, isnt this exactly the sort of nonsense Sir Keir was trying to avoid? Why couldnt she just keep her mouth shut? Just shows what a liability she is imo.